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Automotive News & Views Are you happy you didn't sell your SUV?
122 messages, Last post on Apr 15, 2009 at 5:57 AM
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Replying to: oldfarmer50 (Jan 15, 2009 8:46 am)
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Replying to: larsb (Jan 15, 2009 8:53 am)
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Replying to: gagrice (Jan 15, 2009 9:00 am) I once read that one of the most common accidents between two vehicles are rear end accidents. My old insurance agent suggested the same thing you just did because the Pick-up had a ladder frame protecting the cab from any accidents from the rear. The front frame on a pick-up had additional steel added to carry the engine and transmission. My son had a truck and still I added big rock guards on both sides to add to side impact resistance. I do see the wisdom of putting your kids on a Bus. It is even bigger than a SUV or Truck. I do question the dating aspect for young men but if they are commuting to work it should work fine. |
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Replying to: gagrice (Jan 14, 2009 8:51 am)
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Replying to: nwng (Jan 15, 2009 12:47 pm)
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Replying to: gagrice (Jan 15, 2009 2:32 pm) Which profile fits you Gary? 1. According to Bradsher, internal industry market research concluded that S.U.V.s tend to be bought by people who are insecure, vain, self-centered, and self-absorbed, who are frequently nervous about their marriages, and who lack confidence in their driving skills. 2. Over the past decade, a number of major automakers in America have relied on the services of a French-born cultural anthropologist, G. Clotaire Rapaille, whose speciality is getting beyond the rational—what he calls "cortex"—impressions of consumers and tapping into their deeper, "reptilian" responses. And what Rapaille concluded from countless, intensive sessions with car buyers was that when S.U.V. buyers thought about safety they were thinking about something that reached into their deepest unconscious. "The No. 1 feeling is that everything surrounding you should be round and soft, and should give," Rapaille told me. "There should be air bags everywhere. Then there's this notion that you need to be up high. That's a contradiction, because the people who buy these S.U.V.s know at the cortex level that if you are high there is more chance of a rollover. But at the reptilian level they think that if I am bigger and taller I'm safer. You feel secure because you are higher and dominate and look down. That you can look down is psychologically a very powerful notion. So where do you fall Gary? Which of those categories fit you?
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Is this is almost always a one sided argument. SUV and Truck owners hardly ever even mention small cars or small car owners. Yes they mention Prius owners but mostly because they believe the Prius is one ugly car not that it shouldn't be on the road. SUV owners never start a forum on why someone shouldn't buy a small car or hybrid. I have had a lot of cars and trucks in all my years of driving and in my experience the larger sample of the smaller car is almost always more comfortable. I have had three compact trucks and they have done their job quite well. Still when I replaced them with a full sized truck the full sized one was simply able to do more of what the compact truck did and do it with some extra comfort. I am sure some of the SUVs popularity was image because Mini Vans have the image of being a woman's people hauler. I didn't say it was justified only that is the image. But image is just part of the utility of a Pick-up or SUV. They are able to take that off road trip a lot easier than a Mini Van or small Sedan. They can Tow more than their own weight. And they have room to stretch out when you are on the road. All these are reasons that people that have a Truck or SUV used to purchase their vehicles. Somehow that very line of reasoning seems to anger people who don't take off road trips or tow anything or want the security of 4WD in the snow. The fact that small car owners don't want to or have time to do these things doesn't anger SUV and truck owners. Why should what other people want to drive bother someone else?
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Replying to: boaz47 (Jan 15, 2009 2:56 pm) Is that rhetorical or do you really want an answer?
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Replying to: larsb (Jan 15, 2009 2:38 pm) C'mon, Larry. This stuff is fuzzy social science: interesting as far as it goes, but nothing that will stand up to close scrutiny. It's an op ed piece with a few footnotes. (If you've spent much time on the campus of a large university, you'll notice how insecure social scientists are when their work is compared to that of real scientists - like physicists or chemists.) Here's another perspective on Bradsher's "research": Is Big Bad?
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Replying to: larsb (Jan 15, 2009 2:38 pm)  i'm in #3, wanted wagon all weather/bad road capabilties/no drama. |
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