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Are you happy you didn't sell your SUV?

122 messages, Last post on Apr 15, 2009 at 5:57 AM

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#29 of 122 Re: Every SUV lover needs to read this story [larsb] by gagrice Jan 13, 2009 (3:32 pm)
Replying to: larsb (Jan 13, 2009 1:39 pm) I am sure you are aware that the statistics in that article go directly against the IIHS findings. PU Trucks get the best ratings from the Insurance institute and most large SUVs are also considered safer than most cars. I think we ended the why I don't like SUV thread at over 60,000 posts. You can see for yourself the most dangerous vehicles for passengers are the small to midsized 4 door sedans. The safest are PU trucks and large SUVs. Your article was written by a self appointed SUV hater. There are plenty of them around. Too many for me to run over all of them with my Sequoia. http://www.iihs.org/research/hldi/fact_sheets/personal_injury_coverage_05to07.pd- f Replies to this message: jimbres (Jan 13, 2009 6:59 pm)
#30 of 122 Re: Every SUV lover needs to read this story [larsb] by oldfarmer50 Jan 13, 2009 (3:44 pm)
Replying to: larsb (Jan 13, 2009 1:39 pm) "...SUVs are bought by people who are insecure, vain, self-centered and self-absorbed..." An what about Prius drivers? I understand that they tend to be anal-retentive control freaks who want to feel superior to others and dictate what others are allowed to drive. See I can make up stuff too. I never saw much use for an SUV, they are a bad compromise between a car and a truck and don't do the job of either very well. That said, it's not my business to tell others how to spend their money. Replies to this message: andre1969 (Jan 14, 2009 5:21 am) oldfarmer50 (Jan 14, 2009 10:03 am) larsb (Jan 14, 2009 6:10 am) gagrice (Jan 14, 2009 7:41 am) larsb (Jan 14, 2009 7:48 am) and 21 more... oldfarmer50 (Jan 14, 2009 10:20 am)
#31 of 122 Re: Every SUV lover needs to read this story [gagrice] by jimbres Jan 13, 2009 (6:59 pm)
Replying to: gagrice (Jan 13, 2009 3:32 pm) I don't recall where I saw this, but I remember reading a few years ago that the safety geeks who work for IIHS prefer big sedans for their own personal use. For example, one of them drives a Lexus LS - or he did when this article was written. Their thinking is that a full-sized sedan gives you the best combination of maneuverability - to help you avoid an accident in the 1st place - & crashworthiness - to help you survive the accident that you can't avoid. I'm a sedan/sport coupe guy myself, but I believe that if you came by your money honestly, you should drive whatever you want to drive as long as you can afford it. If I don't like your choice, that's my tough luck.
#32 of 122 Re: Every SUV lover needs to read this story [oldfarmer50] by andre1969 Jan 14, 2009 (5:21 am)
Replying to: oldfarmer50 (Jan 13, 2009 3:44 pm) An what about Prius drivers? I understand that they tend to be anal-retentive control freaks who want to feel superior to others and dictate what others are allowed to drive. See I can make up stuff too. They're also very smug, to the point of sniffing their own farts. At least, they were on "South Park" Replies to this message: oldfarmer50 (Jan 14, 2009 10:03 am)
#33 of 122 Re: Every SUV lover needs to read this story [oldfarmer50] by larsb Jan 14, 2009 (6:10 am)
Replying to: oldfarmer50 (Jan 13, 2009 3:44 pm) They didn't MAKE anything up !!! They got that data from interviewing REAL people as professional psychologists. Replies to this message: gagrice (Jan 14, 2009 7:41 am) larsb (Jan 14, 2009 7:48 am) gagrice (Jan 14, 2009 7:51 am) and 20 more... oldfarmer50 (Jan 14, 2009 10:20 am)
#34 of 122 Re: Every SUV lover needs to read this story [larsb] by gagrice Jan 14, 2009 (7:41 am)
Replying to: larsb (Jan 14, 2009 6:10 am) They got that data from interviewing REAL people as professional psychologists. You can also get the same kind of information about Hybrid drivers. It is the same old SUV haters vs hybrid haters. It has nothing to do with those that foolishly sell an SUV at a big loss when gas prices are high. I’ve always made cracks at the Prius and Prius owners, never really addressing the topic head on because I figured everyone knew that the car was a joke and it’s drivers were stupid &^^% (continued) http://www.misanthropytoday.com/2008/04/29/misanthropy-today-hates-the-prius/ Replies to this message: larsb (Jan 14, 2009 7:48 am) gagrice (Jan 14, 2009 7:51 am) larsb (Jan 14, 2009 7:59 am) and 19 more...
#35 of 122 Re: Every SUV lover needs to read this story [gagrice] by larsb Jan 14, 2009 (7:48 am)
Replying to: gagrice (Jan 14, 2009 7:41 am) At least Prius owners aren't being stupid in regard to safety. I'll take Smug over Dead any time........ Replies to this message: gagrice (Jan 14, 2009 7:51 am) larsb (Jan 14, 2009 7:59 am) gagrice (Jan 14, 2009 8:48 am) and 17 more... grbeck (Jan 14, 2009 1:40 pm)
#36 of 122 Re: Every SUV lover needs to read this story [larsb] by gagrice Jan 14, 2009 (7:51 am)
Replying to: larsb (Jan 14, 2009 7:48 am) At least Prius owners aren't being stupid in regard to safety. I'll take Smug over Dead any time. Not sure your point. You are not going to suggest that a Prius is as safe as a Large SUV? IF so you are all wet and have no legitimate data to back that up. Replies to this message: larsb (Jan 14, 2009 7:59 am) gagrice (Jan 14, 2009 8:48 am) larsb (Jan 14, 2009 9:01 am) and 16 more... grbeck (Jan 14, 2009 1:40 pm)
#37 of 122 Re: Every SUV lover needs to read this story [gagrice] by larsb Jan 14, 2009 (7:59 am)
Replying to: gagrice (Jan 14, 2009 7:51 am) gary says, "You are not going to suggest that a Prius is as safe as a Large SUV? IF so you are all wet and have no legitimate data to back that up. " Actually, I do. You did not read my whole story as posted as a link in my earlier post. From that story: Are the best performers the biggest and heaviest vehicles on the road? Not at all. Among the safest cars are the midsize imports, like the Toyota Camry and the Honda Accord. Or consider the extraordinary performance of some subcompacts, like the Volkswagen Jetta. Drivers of the tiny Jetta die at a rate of just forty-seven per million, which is in the same range as drivers of the five-thousand-pound Chevrolet Suburban and almost half that of popular S.U.V. models like the Ford Explorer or the GMC Jimmy. In a head-on crash, an Explorer or a Suburban would crush a Jetta or a Camry. But, clearly, the drivers of Camrys and Jettas are finding a way to avoid head-on crashes with Explorers and Suburbans. The benefits of being nimble—of being in an automobile that's capable of staying out of trouble—are in many cases greater than the benefits of being big. Replies to this message: gagrice (Jan 14, 2009 8:48 am) larsb (Jan 14, 2009 9:01 am) explorerx4 (Jan 14, 2009 7:45 pm) and 15 more... grbeck (Jan 14, 2009 1:40 pm)
#38 of 122 Re: Shouldn't You Ask... [fezo] by nwng Jan 14, 2009 (8:45 am)
Replying to: fezo (Jan 06, 2009 11:54 am) I think it's all an image problem. minivans drives and handles so much nicer than an suv, let alone less expensive and more space available. I don't tow ( but so does a lot of suv owners). there is always the snow tires option if it snows a lot where your live. But if you encounter 6+ inches of unplowed streets all the time, then suv's/cuv's will be the only option for you Replies to this message: gagrice (Jan 14, 2009 8:51 am) nwng (Jan 15, 2009 12:47 pm) gagrice (Jan 15, 2009 2:32 pm) and 13 more... fezo (Jan 14, 2009 8:54 am)

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