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Are you happy you didn't sell your SUV?

122 messages,  Last post on Apr 15, 2009 at 5:57 AM

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Re: while some [boaz47] by gagrice
Feb 06, 2009 (9:10 pm)
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Replying to: boaz47 (Feb 06, 2009 8:40 pm)

You know that was a real plus in the GMC Hybrid PU. The Bose system was far superior to the JBL in this Sequoia. I have a whole set of CDs that I burnt right from the originals. Then I only play the copy CD. This Toyota will not play half the CDs I have. Skips and has no changer. Changer and XM is not available with this lame NAV. If I could put the Audio and climate control from the GMC into the Toyota I would be way ahead here. Of course this pig is still lucky to get 17 MPG on the road. And it is only a 4.7L V8. It is about equal to the GMC 5.3L power wise. I tell you that BMW X5 diesel had some power. It was almost scary. I am sure I would get a ticket as it just jumps from 50 to 85 MPH. Passing on a hill with this Sequoia is marginal at best. It is not slow like a Prius or Corolla but nothing to write home about.
 
I am not totally sorry I bought this SUV. I probably should have waited till I found the diesel SUV I really want. I do have a young fellow that is very interested in the Sequoia. He has two kids with one on the way. Not room in his Rav4 for 3 child seats. He was working on my overhead door and fell in love with the Sequoia. He knew all about them and acted like he wanted to try and get financing. I won't give it away. I have the patience of Job when selling a vehicle. The GMC was on Craigslist over a year till I got my price.
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Re: while some [gagrice] by stevedebi
Feb 25, 2009 (5:37 pm)
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Replying to: gagrice (Feb 06, 2009 7:24 pm)

"You know I am now 65 years old and have not seen Yellowstone. It is on my list for sure. Now if I can just find an SUV I like that gets 30+ MPG on the highway, I may be satisfied. As long as it has XM radio. "
 
The Ford Escape Hybrid will net you 30+, if you stay around 70 MPH. I get around 32 with my 2008 AWD FEH 75 MPH.
 
It is no good for towing, however.
 
But it does have satellite radio, I'm not sure which one (the 2008 didn't come with it).
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Re: while some [stevedebi] by gagrice
Feb 25, 2009 (6:46 pm)
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Replying to: stevedebi (Feb 25, 2009 5:37 pm)

The Escape is kind of small. I can get 30 on the highway with an X5 or ML320 CDI. Both a lot bigger, better handling, quieter, more comfortable. I don't want to give up my Sequoia until I can get something better. Though if VW were to sell the Tiguan with the 4 cylinder diesel it would be worth the downsize. It should get near 40 on the highway. That and my Sister and brother in law just tried to buy a FEH in October. No discounts, which ended up $10k more than the V6 they got that is loaded. I rode in back and it was not comfortable AT ALL. They like taking ours when we go on trips to the desert.
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Re: while some [stevedebi] by boaz47
Feb 26, 2009 (4:09 pm)
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Replying to: stevedebi (Feb 25, 2009 5:37 pm)

Many new hybrid SUVs come with XM or Sirus? My friends Denali got a year free. I don't think unless they start offering diesels in SUVs you are going to get something that can tow that gets much better than 21 MPG.
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Re: while some [gagrice] by explorerx4
Feb 26, 2009 (4:47 pm)
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Replying to: gagrice (Feb 25, 2009 6:46 pm)

our '04 escape has leather and the rear seats have some recline.
last week we drove about 1600 miles visiting universities.
they seemed ok to me.
in a role reversal, a couple of times i sat in the back watching a movie, while my daughter drove.
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Re: while some [gagrice] by stevedebi
Mar 04, 2009 (12:44 pm)
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Replying to: gagrice (Feb 25, 2009 6:46 pm)

"The Escape is kind of small. I can get 30 on the highway with an X5 or ML320 CDI. Both a lot bigger, better handling, quieter, more comfortable."
 
... and both are a LOT more expensive. I think the Tiguan is about the same size as the FEH. As to price, it depends on where you shop. The dealer here tends to keep them on the lot (last time I checked), where as some dealers in the mid west have maybe one or two per quarter. Ford only produces 25K FEH per year due to lack of batteries.
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Re: while some [explorerx4] by andre1969
Mar 04, 2009 (5:08 pm)
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Replying to: explorerx4 (Feb 26, 2009 4:47 pm)

I've been fairly impressed with the packaging of the Escape. For being a small-ish vehicle, it seems pretty roomy inside. Now if you need a third row seat, or full-sized SUV-type cargo space, it's not going to cut it, but it seems like a decent 4-adult vehicle.
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Re: while some [andre1969] by explorerx4
Mar 04, 2009 (5:56 pm)
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Replying to: andre1969 (Mar 04, 2009 5:08 pm)

my wife still loves her '04 escape, but we are kind of looking for another vehicle due to too many drivers and not enough cars; opposite of you.
with some fortera triple treads on it, she has no problems when the weather is bad.
that's usually when she points out how much she likes it.
we have 4 fords, so we will be looking at another one.
my wife wants an escape hybrid. there is a limited model now like she has now, but they are very expensive.
i am thinking the 4cyl/6 speed limited would be a good choice for us, instead.
while doing my research, i noticed the escape has about the same cargo capacity as an edge!
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Re: while some [explorerx4] by stevedebi
Mar 15, 2009 (4:09 pm)
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Replying to: explorerx4 (Mar 04, 2009 5:56 pm)

"my wife wants an escape hybrid. there is a limited model now like she has now, but they are very expensive.
i am thinking the 4cyl/6 speed limited would be a good choice for us, instead. "
 
You would not make up the difference in price unless you own for 6 - 10 years (depends on gas prices). I got the FEH because I wanted the technology, and all my miles are in town. But the FEH limited is pricey unless you can find a deal. Also, unless you live in California, there may be very limited selection.
 
If you can sign a deal before March 30, you can qualify for the Hybrid tax credit, which runs $3000 for the FWD and $2200 for he AWD.
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Re: while some [stevedebi] by oregonboy
Mar 15, 2009 (4:30 pm)
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Replying to: stevedebi (Mar 15, 2009 4:09 pm)

The tax credit might make it pencil out, if you drive a lot and gas prices go back up (which they must, eventually). But personally, I am a big believer that simpler is better.

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