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Are you happy you didn't sell your SUV?

122 messages,  Last post on Apr 15, 2009 at 5:57 AM

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Re: Wouldn't do without our SUV [ruking1] by boaz47
Jan 19, 2009 (6:26 pm)
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Replying to: ruking1 (Jan 18, 2009 8:40 am)

So the real persuader would be: how much over the monthly payments for a new economy car (say Civic- 400 per mo, plus the cost of gas $ 48. per mo. it actually uses) do I use for suv gas. So far the SUV gas ranges from 89-122 per month. What does the math say to others?
 
As the old robot on lost in Space used to say, "does not compute".
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Re: while some [boaz47] by stevedebi
Feb 06, 2009 (4:05 pm)
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Replying to: boaz47 (Jan 14, 2009 4:33 pm)

"In fact there were times when I used to commute to LA that if they had sold a Abrums tank that got 12 MPG I would have driven that. "
 
Just for fun, note that the M1A3 Abrams tank gets 3 gallons per mile.
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Re: while some [stevedebi] by boaz47
Feb 06, 2009 (6:46 pm)
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Replying to: stevedebi (Feb 06, 2009 4:05 pm)

Standard battle tank mileage was about 3 gallons ot the mile. Even the old M-60. I might have been able to squeeze a few more MPG out of 548 or a APC.
 
What I was saying however that there were times when I was in heavy traffic in LA if I could have pulled 12 MPG out of a tank I might have been willing to drive one. Maybe just a Bradley if I could get them to leave the gun mount?
 
But On long highway trips I do get 12 MPG pulling a travel trailer with my SUV. This is a fantastic country to tour and visit. The four Corner states have some very interesting history and plenty of RV parks where you can stay for $20-$30 a night. Unhook the SUV and drive to plenty of interesting sites. In May I would like to go see Mount Rushmore and Yellowstone. All things that make me glad I didn't sell my SUV. Without the trailer I can still pull down 16-17 MPG in comfort.
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Re: while some [boaz47] by gagrice
Feb 06, 2009 (7:24 pm)
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Replying to: boaz47 (Feb 06, 2009 6:46 pm)

You know I am now 65 years old and have not seen Yellowstone. It is on my list for sure. Now if I can just find an SUV I like that gets 30+ MPG on the highway, I may be satisfied. As long as it has XM radio.
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Re: while some [gagrice] by boaz47
Feb 06, 2009 (8:40 pm)
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Replying to: gagrice (Feb 06, 2009 7:24 pm)

What do the hybrid SUVs get? My best friend just got back from a 3 month trip through the lower 48. He has a brand new Danali loaded with the 6.0 and he averaged just about 20.
 
I like my Tahoe and I would love it with a Diesel. Right now I believe I have the same size motor as you do, a 5.7? Cat back and cold air. But it looks like I might need a new muffler after all the snow I was in last year.
 
So far the best diesel I have owned was my old 7.2 Ford Powerstroke. 20 MPG towing 5000 pounds. But it had more than 500 Pounds feet of torque. Put that motor in my Tahoe and it would get 25 easy. The F-250 was a heavy beast.
 
Don't need XM because I prefer a multi changer with a good speaker system. The drop down DVD player is a nice option as well even if we have a flat screen in the RV. So leather, heated seats, zone heating and air, I have 4wd but 2wd would get better fuel mileage, and a towing package works for me. The Nav system is a nice addition as well.
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Re: while some [boaz47] by gagrice
Feb 06, 2009 (9:10 pm)
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Replying to: boaz47 (Feb 06, 2009 8:40 pm)

You know that was a real plus in the GMC Hybrid PU. The Bose system was far superior to the JBL in this Sequoia. I have a whole set of CDs that I burnt right from the originals. Then I only play the copy CD. This Toyota will not play half the CDs I have. Skips and has no changer. Changer and XM is not available with this lame NAV. If I could put the Audio and climate control from the GMC into the Toyota I would be way ahead here. Of course this pig is still lucky to get 17 MPG on the road. And it is only a 4.7L V8. It is about equal to the GMC 5.3L power wise. I tell you that BMW X5 diesel had some power. It was almost scary. I am sure I would get a ticket as it just jumps from 50 to 85 MPH. Passing on a hill with this Sequoia is marginal at best. It is not slow like a Prius or Corolla but nothing to write home about.
 
I am not totally sorry I bought this SUV. I probably should have waited till I found the diesel SUV I really want. I do have a young fellow that is very interested in the Sequoia. He has two kids with one on the way. Not room in his Rav4 for 3 child seats. He was working on my overhead door and fell in love with the Sequoia. He knew all about them and acted like he wanted to try and get financing. I won't give it away. I have the patience of Job when selling a vehicle. The GMC was on Craigslist over a year till I got my price.
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Re: while some [gagrice] by stevedebi
Feb 25, 2009 (5:37 pm)
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Replying to: gagrice (Feb 06, 2009 7:24 pm)

"You know I am now 65 years old and have not seen Yellowstone. It is on my list for sure. Now if I can just find an SUV I like that gets 30+ MPG on the highway, I may be satisfied. As long as it has XM radio. "
 
The Ford Escape Hybrid will net you 30+, if you stay around 70 MPH. I get around 32 with my 2008 AWD FEH 75 MPH.
 
It is no good for towing, however.
 
But it does have satellite radio, I'm not sure which one (the 2008 didn't come with it).
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Re: while some [stevedebi] by gagrice
Feb 25, 2009 (6:46 pm)
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Replying to: stevedebi (Feb 25, 2009 5:37 pm)

The Escape is kind of small. I can get 30 on the highway with an X5 or ML320 CDI. Both a lot bigger, better handling, quieter, more comfortable. I don't want to give up my Sequoia until I can get something better. Though if VW were to sell the Tiguan with the 4 cylinder diesel it would be worth the downsize. It should get near 40 on the highway. That and my Sister and brother in law just tried to buy a FEH in October. No discounts, which ended up $10k more than the V6 they got that is loaded. I rode in back and it was not comfortable AT ALL. They like taking ours when we go on trips to the desert.
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Re: while some [stevedebi] by boaz47
Feb 26, 2009 (4:09 pm)
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Replying to: stevedebi (Feb 25, 2009 5:37 pm)

Many new hybrid SUVs come with XM or Sirus? My friends Denali got a year free. I don't think unless they start offering diesels in SUVs you are going to get something that can tow that gets much better than 21 MPG.
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Re: while some [gagrice] by explorerx4
Feb 26, 2009 (4:47 pm)
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Replying to: gagrice (Feb 25, 2009 6:46 pm)

our '04 escape has leather and the rear seats have some recline.
last week we drove about 1600 miles visiting universities.
they seemed ok to me.
in a role reversal, a couple of times i sat in the back watching a movie, while my daughter drove.

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