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Are you happy you didn't sell your SUV?

122 messages,  Last post on Apr 15, 2009 at 5:57 AM

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Wouldn't do without our SUV by bryan200k
Jan 17, 2009 (5:47 pm)
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I saw the thread titled, "Are you happy you didn't sell your SUV?" and had to chime in my 5 dollars worth.
 
We have a 2003 GMC Envoy that we bought for the following reasons:
a) Utility - haul a lot of stuff at times
b) 7 passengers (have had to use quite often)
c) Pull our road trailer
d) 4WD capability here up North, especially when it snows.
 
When the gas got high, some others around us were dumping their SUV's, buying a small car, and the bottom line was they lost money on the deal. I figured till I sold the SUV, and bought a small car, the savings in gas would never make up for what I would lose on the deal.
 
Besides ... the four reasons for purchasing the SUV in the first place, still hold true, so why the heck would I get rid of it.
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Re: Wouldn't do without our SUV [bryan200k] by explorerx4
Jan 17, 2009 (6:37 pm)
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Replying to: bryan200k (Jan 17, 2009 5:47 pm)

the mild winters over the last few years made it seem like it the suv was overkill for the drving conditions.
this year: payback!
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Re: I'm going to chime in if I may. [steve_] by daddysangel
Jan 17, 2009 (9:13 pm)
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Replying to: steve_ (Jan 17, 2009 10:47 am)

Thanks, Steve, for clarifing what exactly a `Nox is.
 
DA
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Re: Wouldn't do without our SUV [bryan200k] by daddysangel
Jan 17, 2009 (10:02 pm)
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Replying to: bryan200k (Jan 17, 2009 5:47 pm)

Agree with you about the Utility.
 
There was a mini Cooper spot that computed gas savings with one's current vehicle VS a new mini Cooper at $4.25/gallon for petrol/gasoline. I toyed with the spot several times.
 
However, with the low miles that my dad and I go around our small hometown in my 2005 Equinox LT, there's no rhyme or reason for trading to a mini Cooper.
 
According to the spot, I'd be in a deep hole looking up for ever
 
We'd have to put some bungie cords on my dad's rolling walker with it's bicycle streamers blowing in the wind while towing it behind us in the mini Cooper. Now that's an image to laugh at
 
Daddysangel
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Re: Wouldn't do without our SUV [bryan200k] by ruking1
Jan 18, 2009 (8:40 am)
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Replying to: bryan200k (Jan 17, 2009 5:47 pm)

We have suv's that are literally at half of the ownership (30 year goal) time frame. One has app 11k per year and the other less than 8k per year. Due to business applications, they were never on a payment schedule and fully depreciated 5/6 years, A small issue: I still carry comprehensive insurance, as they stil have uncommon residual value. So the real persuader would be: how much over the monthly payments for a new economy car (say Civic- 400 per mo, plus the cost of gas $ 48. per mo. it actually uses) do I use for suv gas. So far the SUV gas ranges from 89-122 per month. What does the math say to others?
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Re: Wouldn't do without our SUV [ruking1] by boaz47
Jan 19, 2009 (6:26 pm)
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Replying to: ruking1 (Jan 18, 2009 8:40 am)

So the real persuader would be: how much over the monthly payments for a new economy car (say Civic- 400 per mo, plus the cost of gas $ 48. per mo. it actually uses) do I use for suv gas. So far the SUV gas ranges from 89-122 per month. What does the math say to others?
 
As the old robot on lost in Space used to say, "does not compute".
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Re: while some [boaz47] by stevedebi
Feb 06, 2009 (4:05 pm)
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Replying to: boaz47 (Jan 14, 2009 4:33 pm)

"In fact there were times when I used to commute to LA that if they had sold a Abrums tank that got 12 MPG I would have driven that. "
 
Just for fun, note that the M1A3 Abrams tank gets 3 gallons per mile.
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Re: while some [stevedebi] by boaz47
Feb 06, 2009 (6:46 pm)
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Replying to: stevedebi (Feb 06, 2009 4:05 pm)

Standard battle tank mileage was about 3 gallons ot the mile. Even the old M-60. I might have been able to squeeze a few more MPG out of 548 or a APC.
 
What I was saying however that there were times when I was in heavy traffic in LA if I could have pulled 12 MPG out of a tank I might have been willing to drive one. Maybe just a Bradley if I could get them to leave the gun mount?
 
But On long highway trips I do get 12 MPG pulling a travel trailer with my SUV. This is a fantastic country to tour and visit. The four Corner states have some very interesting history and plenty of RV parks where you can stay for $20-$30 a night. Unhook the SUV and drive to plenty of interesting sites. In May I would like to go see Mount Rushmore and Yellowstone. All things that make me glad I didn't sell my SUV. Without the trailer I can still pull down 16-17 MPG in comfort.
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Re: while some [boaz47] by gagrice
Feb 06, 2009 (7:24 pm)
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Replying to: boaz47 (Feb 06, 2009 6:46 pm)

You know I am now 65 years old and have not seen Yellowstone. It is on my list for sure. Now if I can just find an SUV I like that gets 30+ MPG on the highway, I may be satisfied. As long as it has XM radio.
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Re: while some [gagrice] by boaz47
Feb 06, 2009 (8:40 pm)
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Replying to: gagrice (Feb 06, 2009 7:24 pm)

What do the hybrid SUVs get? My best friend just got back from a 3 month trip through the lower 48. He has a brand new Danali loaded with the 6.0 and he averaged just about 20.
 
I like my Tahoe and I would love it with a Diesel. Right now I believe I have the same size motor as you do, a 5.7? Cat back and cold air. But it looks like I might need a new muffler after all the snow I was in last year.
 
So far the best diesel I have owned was my old 7.2 Ford Powerstroke. 20 MPG towing 5000 pounds. But it had more than 500 Pounds feet of torque. Put that motor in my Tahoe and it would get 25 easy. The F-250 was a heavy beast.
 
Don't need XM because I prefer a multi changer with a good speaker system. The drop down DVD player is a nice option as well even if we have a flat screen in the RV. So leather, heated seats, zone heating and air, I have 4wd but 2wd would get better fuel mileage, and a towing package works for me. The Nav system is a nice addition as well.

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