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MY FUTURE OLDER CAR?

81 messages,  Last post on Apr 03, 2009 at 12:54 PM

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Re: My Future Car ? [explorerx4] by Mr_Shiftright HOST
Jan 07, 2009 (4:43 pm)
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Replying to: explorerx4 (Jan 07, 2009 4:09 pm)

My experience has been that the asking price is always flexible, and oddly enough, even more flexible if the seller likes your approach to his vehicle.
 
Here's my silly Rules of Thumb on this subject
 
1. The asking price is the act of the seller exercising his First Amendment Rights under the Constitution. This price does not have to have anything to do with reality, unless of course the seller actually wants to sell the car.
 
2. Never bargain with a seller on the phone before you see the car. This PO's most sellers.
 
3. Never challenge the asking price directly, as if it were "wrong".
 
4. Don't talk price at all until you have driven and inspected the car.
 
5. Make an offer. If he counters, work from there. If he refuses to counter, write your offer down on a business card and wish him a good day and WALK.
 
Remember, the old cliche still holds true:
 
"You cannot negotiate successfully if you cannot leave the table."
 
6. Bringing price guides with you is helpful, if they favor your cause of course.
 
7. DON'T say "I saw another one in the paper for $2,000 less, because you've just played straight man to his retort---well then, smart ass, go buy that one!"
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Re: My Future Car ? [Mr_Shiftright] by explorerx4
Jan 07, 2009 (5:26 pm)
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Jan 07, 2009 4:43 pm)

8. don't forget to send shifty a thank you note for this priceless advice!
i am not kidding.
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I'd also add... by lemko
Jan 09, 2009 (7:37 am)
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...bring at least one other knowledgeable person with you. They'll spot things wrong with the car you might miss. I've spent a lot of time looking at cars at Carlisle and the guys with me spotted things wrong I'd have first missed.
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Re: I'd also add... [lemko] by Mr_Shiftright HOST
Jan 09, 2009 (8:31 am)
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Replying to: lemko (Jan 09, 2009 7:37 am)

Good suggestion...even BETTER, it would be beneficial if that person doesn't like, or is benignly indifferent to, the kind of car you are looking at. You'd be amazed how "being in love" with a certain type of car will blind you so badly you'll stagger around for months wondering how you could have been so stupid.
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Re: I'd also add... [Mr_Shiftright] by andre1969
Jan 09, 2009 (2:05 pm)
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Jan 09, 2009 8:31 am)

Good suggestion...even BETTER, it would be beneficial if that person doesn't like, or is benignly indifferent to, the kind of car you are looking at.
 
Sounds like a plan. Shifty, the next time I fall in love with another old 70's mastodon, I'm bringing you with me, because I know how you feel about them!
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Andre: by jrosasmc
Jan 09, 2009 (2:09 pm)
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Thought you might want to take a look at this article. It is about a lady who has owned a '69 Dart since it was brand-new.
 
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/06/automobiles/collectibles/06EGO.html?scp=19&sq=- Auto%20Ego&st=cse
 
By the way, how is your '68? Have you finally let it go yet?
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andre... by explorerx4
Jan 09, 2009 (4:11 pm)
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keep hanging onto the Intrepid and maybe in 40 years or so you could make the NY Times!
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Re: Andre: [jrosasmc] by explorerx4
Jan 09, 2009 (4:16 pm)
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Replying to: jrosasmc (Jan 09, 2009 2:09 pm)

nice post! i only have to hang onto my mustang for another 23 years to match her.
of course, she is not giving up her car, so it's like trying to catch up in age to your older sibling.
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My Future Car ? by piCARso
Jan 09, 2009 (6:19 pm)
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You guys are having way too much fun. Hope you haven't forgotten me. Great advice about stradegies for buying a car. I will remember them. I know when we were looking to buy a boat, every one we saw we wanted and we rationalized away any imperfection. You know what the letters B.O.A.T. stand for: " Bring out another thousand" And of course the well know homily: "The two happiest times in a mans' life is the day he buys his first boat and the day he sells it". I hope this does not apply to vintage cars. Thanks to all your great council. My horizons have been broadened. Initially, all I thought about was the outside of the car but Mr. Shiftright got me thinking about handling and performance. With my modest budget that 65-69 Corvair looks interesting. I know there is a group of rabid admirers out there and in the past I have overlooked them because they are small and modest compared to many of the showy late 50's cars. Looking at them with a fresh eye I admire their compact simplicity. Well kept convertibles with I imagine thrifty 6 cylinder engines sell for below 10 consistently. What can you tell me about these cars? Are they fun to drive, good engines, brakes, suspensions, etc.? Anything I should know ? The field is narrowing.
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Re: My Future Car ? [piCARso] by explorerx4
Jan 09, 2009 (6:32 pm)
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Replying to: piCARso (Jan 09, 2009 6:19 pm)

mr shifty provide great insight and he is willing to share it.
lucky for you and many others.
go to google and type corvair.
if you see somthing you like, post back about it.
i am sure you will get some opinions.

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