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MY FUTURE OLDER CAR?

81 messages,  Last post on Apr 03, 2009 at 12:54 PM

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Re: Here's my vote - [Mr_Shiftright] by texases
Jan 04, 2009 (4:38 pm)
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Jan 04, 2009 4:14 pm)

Yes, a '57 4door would work. I'm not too crazy about cars related to early Mustangs, though, given the major body rot my '65 experienced.
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Re: Here's my vote - [texases] by Mr_Shiftright HOST
Jan 04, 2009 (4:45 pm)
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Replying to: texases (Jan 04, 2009 4:38 pm)

True but if you have a car with body on frame construction and unbolt-able fenders, and where the aftermarket supplies replacement panels, it's not such a big deal to repair certain rust issues. In the UK they cut out rocker panels like we change oil.
 
Actually a very handsome 4-door car you can buy for ridiculously few dollars is a 65-69 Corvair, if you want to get into the hobby real cheap.
 
50s cars are so CLUNKY though.
 
I do have a few 50s favorites though....like a black on black '58 Plymouth 2D. BAT CAR! (Also a notorious rust bucket, sad to say).
 
I always thought a Valiant station wagon would be pretty cool to own. Rare bird though.
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Re: Here's my vote - [Mr_Shiftright] by fezo
Jan 04, 2009 (6:08 pm)
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Jan 04, 2009 4:45 pm)

I would love to have one of those later Corvairs!
 
The Valiant wagon is pretty cool, too. We inherited one of those back in the mid-60s. Gee, I was in my first accident (as a passenger) in that car...
 
Convertibles are great. I love convertibles. The thing to remember there is that when the top goes down the price goes up - considerably so.
 
That lot in Maine had some fun stuff. Not cheaply priced for what it was but cool.
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My Future Car ? by piCARso
Jan 06, 2009 (8:01 pm)
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Thank you for your reponses. I have been busy with my homework. There are some handsome convertible Ford Falcon Futuras and Corvairs on ebay right now. They are small, sporty and seemingly reasonable. They are a good suggestion for a tight budget and not over the top. Their modesty makes them a jewel in the rough. The 57' Belair 4 door, picked again for affordability, was a liitle stodgy for me. The 58' Plymouth 2 doors were over the top gorgeous with prices to match. Fun to dream though. The 67' pontiac was another great suggestion. What do you think about 59'-61' Impalas, 2 and 4 doors; Edsels, Cougars, 59' Old's 88 and some of those big convertibles from the 70's that seem cheap and unpopular, even without their roofs. Is it gas consumption or aren't they vintage enough? There are a few vintage car places in So. Maine but prices are not realistic. They are buying them cheap from away and doubling the price. Any more dimonds in the rough out there?
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Re: My Future Car ? [piCARso] by Mr_Shiftright HOST
Jan 07, 2009 (9:12 am)
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Replying to: piCARso (Jan 06, 2009 8:01 pm)

The Cougar is kind of a bargain Mustang, that's true.
 
I don't think you'll be able to touch a '61 Impala Coupe. Those are very very popular.
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Re: My Future Car ? [piCARso] by andre1969
Jan 07, 2009 (12:03 pm)
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Replying to: piCARso (Jan 06, 2009 8:01 pm)

some of those big convertibles from the 70's that seem cheap and unpopular, even without their roofs. Is it gas consumption or aren't they vintage enough?
 
I don't think it's gas consumption or not being old enough...it's just that for the most part, they weren't very good cars. And that's coming from someone who loves big 70's boats! GM's big cars were still pretty good in 1970, but the 1971 models were pretty poorly put together in comparison. They were still pretty good performers, with the right engine. Even the 1972 models weren't bad performers, but unfortunately, 1973 would see to that.
 
Still, I think they can be pretty cool cars. I wouldn't mind having a 1975 LeSabre convertible, baby blue, preferably with the 455 V-8. I think the '71-73 LeSabre/Centurion and '71-72 Impala 'verts were pretty sharp looking, too. Most LeSabres and Impala probably just had 350's, but a 455 was standard in the Centurion, making it a performance bargain.
 
I think Ford quit making big convertibles after 1972, and Chrysler gave it up after 1971, and none of them sold in near the quantity that GM did.
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Re: My Future Car ? [piCARso] by euphonium
Jan 07, 2009 (12:34 pm)
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Replying to: piCARso (Jan 06, 2009 8:01 pm)

'67 GTO is highly recommended as are the following: 65/66 Mustang V8 Coupe, 65 Falcon Futura Coupe, 67 Cougar Coupe as these can include Power steering, Automatic tranny, & even Air Conditioning.
 
The Studebaker Hawk would really be uncommon and an eye catcher.
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Re: My Future Car ? [euphonium] by Mr_Shiftright HOST
Jan 07, 2009 (12:45 pm)
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Replying to: euphonium (Jan 07, 2009 12:34 pm)

Yes the last 62-64 Gran Turismo Hawks are nice looking, kinda T-Bird like, with sturdy engines, attractive body on a very dated chassis and suspension. Hard to find parts, though, for Studebakers. Not much of an aftermarket, so buy one totally done and totally complete except maybe for simple mechanical stuff.
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Re: My Future Car ? [Mr_Shiftright] by fezo
Jan 07, 2009 (1:52 pm)
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Jan 07, 2009 12:45 pm)

As long as you don't get a 58 Packard Hawk - one of the great uglymobiles. it probably gets points for being rare though there's good reason for the rareness...
 
Like Andre I have a soft spot for 70s boat convertibles. Looked at a 74 Impala convertible long enough ago that it was on a regular used car lot. I couldn't quite pull the trigger. Some of that might have been that it was a 74. That was the worst year ever for cars.
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Re: My Future Car ? [fezo] by isellhondas
Jan 07, 2009 (2:42 pm)
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Replying to: fezo (Jan 07, 2009 1:52 pm)

Putting the Packard name on that 1958 Hawk was a miserable thing to do.
 
About ten years ago, I had the chance to buy one of my favorite cars. A 1952 Chevy. It was a four door Deluxe and it looked and ran well.
 
But I got to thinking. Suppose the lower end loosens up as they always do given enough time. Who is still alive who would be willing and able to work on those babbitt bearings and rods?
 
Who would be able to reseal that closed driveline when the internal seals fail?
 
And when the kingpins need to be replaced, who could do them?
 
Modern shops hate to work on cars that are fifteen years old much less one that is 50 plus years old. I lack the skill and equipment to do anything extensive.
 
And suppose someone runs a red light and takes out a rear door and quarter panel?
 
On that Chevy, used parts could probably be found but what it it was a Studebaker or a Packard or even a Chrysler?
 
This is why I haven't bought anything.

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