Last post on Sep 13, 2009 at 1:00 PM
You are in the Toyota Venza
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Toyota Venza, Ford Edge, Nissan Murano, Car Comparisons, SUV
#8 of 29 Why we got the Edge
Jan 23, 2009 (1:05 pm)
We selected our 2008 Edge Limited for a variety of reasons. The Murano was out from the start due to the nearest dealer being 100 miles away. Even if there was a Nissan dealer close, the Murano does not have the practicality that the Edge has. It is just too small inside. I had seen the Venza at the Chicago Auto Show and liked its looks, as it looks like basically a Toyota Edge. Did not care for the curvy grille as much as the Edge grille. Got the Edge before the Venza came out, but had the Venza been out I am sure we would have given it a strong look as our Ford dealer is also a Toyota dealer. The Edge is not as polished inside as the Toyota but the seats are very comfortable and we love the way it drives. The SYNC is really nice too. The Edge was a leap of faith for us as we have never in our lives owned a Ford product before the Edge. I was worried about Ford reliability as compared to the imports, but the ironic thing is that in 14 months of owning the Edge it has not had a single service issue other than oil changes and tire rotation. It has been perfect. If buying today I would give the Venza a look as well as the Edge. Bottom line is that we have zero complaints with the Edge and are very satisfied. The Murano would appeal if we had a dealer close and did not have kids and "stuff" to haul. It would be very nice for a couple who wanted a sportier crossover and were not so concerned about room inside. Frankly, you cannot go wrong with any of these fine vehicles.
#9 of 29 I actually wonder....
Jan 23, 2009 (5:33 pm)
if the Venza competes more, or as much, with the RAV4 as it does with either the Edge or the Murano.
#10 of 29 Re: I actually wonder.... [bodble2]
Jan 23, 2009 (6:25 pm)
Hmm... interesting thought. I think that the RAV4, as a whole, is a bit outdated... It seems on par more with "Jeep", which IMO left its popularity in the 90's. Looking at Toyota's website and vehicle categories along the top, the RAV4 is at the lowest end of the pricing structure for SUVs and Vans, whereas the Venza is basically the "luxury" high end model, next to the Avalon in the Cars category.
I think just based off of their pricing structure, the Venza may be the modern day version of the RAV4, with Crossovers being somewhat of the "new Jeeps" of this era.
#11 of 29 Re: I actually wonder.... [bodble2]
Jan 24, 2009 (1:02 pm)
The RAV4 is a physically smaller vehicle than the Venza. It's about 7 inches shorter in length and a couple inches narrower (possibly a little more, as that's factoring in the "overfender" on the Sport).
I think people who look at the RAV4, versus a Highlander or Venza (which are almost identical in length and width), are doing so because they see the RAV4 as a physically smaller vehicle.
If you aligned each Toyota car model with an associated CUV, it'd look like this:
Corolla -> RAV4
Camry -> Highlander
Avalon -> Venza
There is pricing overlap between all three CUVs, the same way a Corolla XRS can be more expensive than a Camry LE, or a Camry XLE is more expensive than an Avalon XL.
Similar comparisons can be made within the Ford lineup (Taurus -> Edge) and Nissan lineup (Maxima -> Murano) as well.
#12 of 29 Re: I actually wonder.... [qs933]
Jan 24, 2009 (4:42 pm)
you are close, so i will make a couple of revisions, as best i know.
camry = avalon -> venza
fusion -> edge.
my guess is you are referring to their marketing.
#13 of 29 Re: I actually wonder.... [explorerx4]
Jan 24, 2009 (6:57 pm)
That's correct -- I was referring to the product positioning, not the actual technical basis of the vehicle (i.e. the Edge is based on the same platform as the Fusion).
I would disagree with "Camry=Avalon," again in terms of positioning. Although they share the same platform, the Avalon is marketed at a different target than the Camry. Same thing with the Venza versus the Highlander -- same platform, different targets.
#14 of 29 Why I purchased a Venza
Mar 22, 2009 (9:06 pm)
I test drove an Edge Limited, a Nissan Murano SL AWD, and a Toyota Venza FWD V6. Each vehicle had its pros and cons, but one thing was definitely noticeable with the Venza than the other vehicles, fit/finish/price. The quality of leather in the Venza was far superior to the Edge. The Venza was much bigger than the Murano, and options/price for the Venza was a better deal than either vehicle. On terms of quietness, it was a toss up between the Murano & Venza, but I guess I finally decided on Toyota's reputation and resale value over the other vehicles.
See for yourself, the Venza is a head turner and a conversation piece!!
Test Drive one soon!
#15 of 29 Re: Why I purchased a Venza [pacpark4]
Mar 24, 2009 (6:44 am)
The Venza is a very well thought out vehicle. It is also a "tweener" - meant to fit a niche between existing vehicles where Toyota was losing to Murano when RAV4 was too small/spartan and Highlander was too truck-like.
However, the gas mileage is attractive to the loaded RAV4 shopper. The lease deals are not great and sadly, this iced it for me. Got $5K off list on a 2009 Murano LE and good combination of residual and money factor.
Otherwise, it would have been a Venza. Toyota leather is a notch above and they still do interior dash in a stylish classic manner better than the rest. On interiors, I feel Honda is too "out there", Nissan a bit reserved stingy and Ford - well they are trying but have a long way to go.
My last comment is strictly an aesthetic one. The difficulty in getting a lot of color combinations also drove the decision. I'm not a big fan of all these two tone (and sometimes three) on the light interiors. I don't know if that's a Toyota manufacturing decision or the dealer's. Supposedly, there is a Sport edition of the Venza starting to arrive but no leather option. If this existed, I would have potentially been worth the stretch.
Frankly, I think if you are leasing, it's hard to go wrong with a great deal on any of these vehicles. I just wouldn't want to be driving a Ford after 80K of hard driving.
#16 of 29 Re: Why I purchased a Venza [get_it_guy]
Mar 25, 2009 (2:57 pm)
Highlander is too truck like?! Owned an 05 for 3 years and still miss it and test drove the 08 and just didn't like the size and hood position from driver's perspective. Truck like is the LAST thing I'd call a Highlander.
#17 of 29 Re: Why I purchased a Venza [get_it_guy]
Apr 07, 2009 (7:51 pm)
On interiors, I feel Honda is too "out there", Toyota leather is a notch above and they still do interior dash in a stylish classic manner better than the rest.
I beg to differ. The CR-V is much more traditional compared to the lopsided yet-attractive Venza design.