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Hyundai Elantra, Brakes
#9 of 36 Re: WARNING TO ALL 2006 and Newer Hyundai Owners [Bad08Sonata]
Dec 30, 2008 (6:12 am)
Keep in mind that the trade-in value is considerably less than the retail value, since the dealer needs to make some profit on the sale. However, in the past couple of weeks I have seen several 2008 Sonata GLSes within 25 miles of me with I4 and AT, some with the moonroof package, with between 20-40k miles for just under $11k retail. So your dealer's estimate for trade-in value sounds about right.
Keep in mind also that EVERY used car has seen a plunge in value recently, especially over the past 2-3 months. From the prices I've been seeing, the drop is about 15-20%. A few months ago, you could have probably gotten at least $2000-3000 more for that 2008 Sonata on trade-in. That's good news for people buying cars, but bad news for those selling them. The other thing about used 2008 Sonatas is that I4 ATs could be had for under $15k when new, which doesn't exactly help their resale value now.
If I don't get a great deal this week, I'll just wait until next year. I am in no hurry. I might wait until late next year, when used 2009 Sonatas will be available in volume.
But meanwhile, my 2004 Elantra is running great, 4-wheel disc brakes with ABS work great (including parking brake) and my son appreciates having a good car to take to school, practice etc.
#10 of 36 Re: WARNING TO ALL 2006 and Newer Hyundai Owners [Bad08Sonata]
Dec 30, 2008 (7:28 am)
I have a 2008 Elantra GLS automatic which I purchased on June 5, 2008. My hubby got one at the same date and time due to the good bargain we got. ($13,995). I was looking for a new vehicle due to losing my Toyota Taco to a recall that it was taken off the road and junked. And since I couldn't afford a new Toyota Taco and my legs were too long for the Toyota cars, this is why I bought my Hyundai. My legs were even too long for the Sonata which is what I was originally going to buy. But after the test drive I knew I would have trouble owning it with the leg room. So, we both bought the same car. Only different colors. Hubby's car is the one whose fuel pump went and caused the 3 car pileup in NJ. Then they did the recall.
Also, I just noticed everyone...even though hubby's car was fixed in July (fuel pump) as I looked over our bills I was getting in order, I noticed when he did his oil change in Sept like I did that they replaced his whole fuel pump and assembly AGAIN under recall. Now, makes me wonder what they did in July. The bill in July said fuel pump replaced. And the bill in Sept says Fuel Pump Kit Pump Kit installed under recall warranty.
#11 of 36 Brakes
Dec 30, 2008 (9:11 am)
We have a number of Elantra topics - let's try to keep this one focused on the brakes, okay?
#13 of 36 Re: WARNING TO ALL 2006 and Newer Hyundai Owners [Bad08Sonata]
Dec 31, 2008 (10:45 am)
I got "500" errors on each of the links you posted.
#15 of 36 Re: WARNING TO ALL 2006 and Newer Hyundai Owners [Bad08Sonata]
Dec 31, 2008 (4:45 pm)
Thanks, I was able to view these links w/o signing in (although I do have an account).
But the procedures you posted mention nothing about requiring the use of a push/pull gauge when servicing the parking brake. So I am puzzled why you seem upset that at least some Hyundai dealers (such as the one you took your Sonata to for service) don't have one.
#16 of 36 Re: WARNING TO ALL 2006 and Newer Hyundai Owners [Bad08Sonata]
Dec 31, 2008 (5:53 pm)
Look at # 10 of the PARKING BRAKE SHOE (DISC BRAKE TYPE) Installation
look at # 3 of the Parking Brake Lever Stroke Adjustment
between the yellow-orange lines
Parking brake lever stroke :
7 clicks (Pull the lever with 20kg)
BIG NOTE IN GREEN under it :
After repairing the parking brake shoe, adjust the brake shoe clearance, and then adjust the parking brake lever stroke. (Refer to "Parking brake shoe installation")
and then the picture under this NOTE
Pull up with 196 N (20kg, 44lbs) force, within 38MM of the top ot the lever not to include the push button.
I'm off to enjoy the new years celebration, I hope you have a great one too.
#17 of 36 Re: WARNING TO ALL 2006 and Newer Hyundai Owners [Bad08Sonata]
Dec 31, 2008 (6:31 pm)
I saw those notes. I did not see anything specific about using a push/pull gauge in this procedure, e.g. "WARNING: be sure to use a push/pull gauge to ensure you are applying exactly 196N/20 kg/44 lbs. of force. Failure to do so will result in an improperly adjusted parking brake." If it were important to use such a tool in the procedure, shouldn't it say so? I've seen other parking brake adjustment procedures for other cars e.g. Miata specifically mention a tool, e.g. spring scale.
Maybe the culprit here is the folks who write Hyundai's repair manuals??
Have a good celebration. I am going to stay off the icy roads and leave them to the other celebrants.
#18 of 36 Re: WARNING TO ALL 2006 and Newer Hyundai Owners [backy]
Jan 01, 2009 (12:54 pm)
I think many repair procedures rely on service techs knowing how to perform and understand general service procedures. I also believe, torque procedures and measurements, making thickness and clearance measurements, and performing pull / push measurements would fall into that category... Don't you?
Does someone else other that Hyundai write their Official Service/Repair manuals or maintain the Hyundai Motor America Service Web-page?
Whoever wrote the manual went to a lot of trouble to identify a certain pull force requirement, (put it in 3 different types of measurement force based on scale 196N/20 kg/44 lbs) identified a certain area position on the lever itself (within 38MM of the top of the lever not to include the push button) and how far the lever is to move from the non-set position (7 clicks).
If they did not want their techs to follow this ...I wonder why they go to so much trouble to include these measurements and a picture too in their manual?
You would think a Hyundai Field Engineer with a Hyundai Motor Representative and a Platinum Service Technician (all working together, on-site) would be able to breeze through these steps... THAT IS, IF THEY FOLLOW THE MANUAL AND HAD THE TOOLS ON HAND... RIGHT?
I'm in agreement with you, the manual could be a little more detailed, but this should not be used as an excuse on anyone's part, neither should skipping the procedures because they did not have the tool on hand.
I hope you have a spectacular 2009.