Last post on Mar 05, 2010 at 1:26 PM
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Subaru Impreza, Subaru Impreza WRX STi, Sedan, Wagon
#11 of 30 Re: 2010 wrx sti [rsholland]
Dec 29, 2008 (4:12 pm)
I agree with the limited trim with a nicer interior and much better stereo! (and Nav unit) but I'm sure that would push the STi into the $40k range, which might be a hard sell.
I think the turbo H6 would be very cool- not much weight penalty and a lot more potential power. But once again, might push it over the $40k range.
#12 of 30 Re: 2010 wrx sti [tsy]
Dec 29, 2008 (6:22 pm)
Well, that's another item that needs to be addressed: $40K for an NAV-equipped econocar with a gonzo drivetrain? There's no way an STI should cost twice that of an Impreza 2.5i.
The STI may be a great little car, but a great "value" it's not. There are a lot of very nice performance cars in the STI price range—and that are in many ways far more compelling than the STI.
#13 of 30 Re: 2010 wrx sti [rsholland]
Dec 29, 2008 (7:54 pm)
In that some tuners are getting close to 200 HP per litre from the 4 banger, I'm not in favor of an even greater amount of weight hanging off the front. I think that's exactly how Audi lost their way.
#14 of 30 Re: 2010 wrx sti [merrycynic]
Dec 30, 2008 (7:07 am)
Subaru needs to make the STI "special" again. Compared to the '09 WRX, the STI looks like an overpriced car, with not a lot more to offer than the WRX.
Giving it a turbo 3.0 H-6, with 350+ hp, does just that.
The BMW M3 has a very different engine than the standard 3 Series. I think that's what's needed here. Also, I'm not concerned about whatever extra weight that may involve. It won't be much, as the Legacy does just fine with the H6.
#15 of 30 no six cylinder!
Dec 30, 2008 (8:05 am)
putting a six cylinder engine in the sti would destroy its heritage. putting a six in the impreza sti would ruin it! you can extract plenty of power out of the 2.5 h-4. more then you can use! now if they made a legacy sti with the h-6 as a big brother to the impreza sti that would be alright.
#16 of 30 Re: no six cylinder! [jsylvestre]
Dec 30, 2008 (8:51 am)
It's not a question of getting more power. A 3.0 H-6 turbo in the Impreza STI would elevate the [Impreza] STI's image, and would likely sell more cars—assuming they can solve the "value" issue.
As to heritage: Subaru has just dropped out of the WRC. Plus the cars they raced in the WRC were 2.0 engines, not 2.5 engines. So I don't see a problem here either.
Offer a larger 3.6 H-6 turbo in the Legacy STI. Having two STIs, with different engines is not a problem.
#17 of 30 Re: 2010 wrx sti [rsholland]
Dec 30, 2008 (12:35 pm)
It's not the weight it's self that bothers me, but the weight distribution. Subarus are already burdened with most of it's weight in the worst place.
Jan 09, 2009 (11:36 am)
Mitsu sales were down more than 25% last year, IIRC. The new Lancer isn't doing that well.
#20 of 30 Re: STI A-Line [rsholland]
Feb 24, 2009 (1:23 pm)
STI + Automatic = sacreligious.