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Replying to: larsb (Dec 30, 2008 2:42 pm) Except that raising the speed limit has not resulted in more fatalities and accidents, and there is no proof that drivers traveling at 75 mph are involved in more accidents, or are more deadly, than drivers who travel at 55 mph. larsb: This is one of the famous "Autobahn" wreck pictures. You think this would have happened at 55 mph? A red herring argument. Most fatalities occur at speeds below 45 mph, and limited access highways, where speeds are the highest, are among our safest roads.
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Replying to: grbeck (Jan 06, 2009 10:28 am) Ask a first responder if he would rather assist in a 55 MPH wreck or a 75 MPH wreck. There's your "proof" right there. It's not rocket science - it's common sense.
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Replying to: upstatedoc (Jan 06, 2009 10:26 am) |
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Here is someone who can show data related to speed and accidents and injuries: European Road Safety Observatory
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of California (Palm Springs/Palm Desert area) reinforces my previously held belief that Arizonians do not drive particularly fast. While maintaining 75mph on the I-10W from Phoenix I passed more traffic than I was passed by (speed limit is 75). Doing the same speed on the same road in California (speed limit 70) I was passed by as many as I passed (which were mostly trucks) and I see a lot more aggressive driving. If you see a pickup w Cali plates it's likely to be driven aggressively (weaving, tailgating, passing on right, the kind of driving that's a lot more dangerous than going a few miles over the limit).)
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Replying to: andys120 (Jan 06, 2009 5:40 pm) Because there is no way to know that. You know why? Because almost all "Arizonians" are not FROM Arizona. Most are from other places. So there is no way to stereotype drivers from this state. It's just a hodgepodge of people who learned to drive in other states, with a sprinkling of maybe 30% of people who were born and raised here. And yes, as a rule, California highway drivers are excessive speed demons. True dat.
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Replying to: larsb (Jan 06, 2009 10:34 am)
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Replying to: larsb (Jan 07, 2009 6:27 am) Drive on the eastern part of Long Island one time and you'll think California drivers are tame. 
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Replying to: dtownfb (Jan 07, 2009 7:12 am) Your argument seems to be one of those. Anyway, of course I do not think all roads should have 45 MPH or less speed limits. I just think that people ought to DRIVE THE POSTED LIMITS and not complain if they get caught disobeying the law. How is it that we raise our kids to "obey the law and respect the police" and yet we (not me but many people ) gladly and happily speed our tails off every chance we get? Is that not the height of hypocrisy? My kids are 9 and 12 right now, and I point out to them all the time how idiots speed around me and then PRESTO, 20 seconds later we both end up at the same stop light. Did a lot of good to speed, huh buddy?
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Replying to: larsb (Jan 07, 2009 7:32 am) Photo radars are put into place for generating revenue under the disguise of safety. If there are problem areas, put police officers there. Sure they can't catch everyone but I guarantee that after a couple of weeks of seeing people pulled over, they'll get the message.
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