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Re: Phoenix area photo radar stats [oregonboy]
by larsb
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Dec 30, 2008 (2:43 pm)
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Replying to: oregonboy (Dec 30, 2008 2:36 pm)
You could very well be correct on that.
I hope you got my point, though. 
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- #69 of 1788
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Re: Phoenix area photo radar stats [larsb]
by fintail
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Dec 30, 2008 (2:54 pm)
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Replying to: larsb (Dec 30, 2008 2:42 pm)
NASCAR is irrelevant, a weak red herring. Kind of like Phoenix itself...
If you are all about reducing the severity of accidents, then you have no problem supporting speeds where casualties would almost vanish, right? Why stop with a reduction, if safety is the true reason for the embrace of blind authoritarian idiocy that exists in reality to generate money for the least accountable segments of society? 40 or even 35 or 30 would be fine to you, right?
Such crashes as the cheap emotional image you post happen no matter the road or the speed limit.
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- #70 of 1788
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Re: Phoenix area photo radar stats [larsb]
by berri
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Dec 30, 2008 (6:12 pm)
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Replying to: larsb (Dec 30, 2008 2:43 pm)
If you're driving under the limit, or going the limit in the left lane, you are probably backing up traffic and agitating everyone. That's less safe than going 10 over the limit and keeping to the right. People going way under the limit, or hogging the passing lane, are bigger accident causers than those going 10 over the limit provided there is no traffic backup or congestion. Ideally, everyone would just drive the posted limit, then traffic would flow better and there would be fewer accidents. The government gets a lot of the blame. They post artifically low speed limits and allow minimum speeds way below the posted limit on expressways. This is where the congestion problem gets started in the first place, so its a little outrageous that they use cameras to nail speeders, but let the people backing up traffic flow get no penalties. Add to that the likelihood of payola or other disingenious methods of rigging the equipment and paying commisions (kickbacks) to the camera companies and you can see why people get upset. I don't trust this "contracting out" the cameras because a day doesn't seem to go by when you don't see another news story about government and/or business corruption. If there are cameras, there needs to be an independent 3rd party like UL verifying they are properly calibrated on a random basis.
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- #71 of 1788
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Re: Phoenix area photo radar stats [berri]
by larsb
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Dec 31, 2008 (2:04 pm)
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Replying to: berri (Dec 30, 2008 6:12 pm)
That's just it. A major problem in America, one of the reasons we even NEED photo radar cameras, is this ridiculous attitude:
People driving AT or BARELY ABOVE the speed limit are an AGITATION to people who want to OBLITERATE the speed limit.
That's just idiotic. You should never get "mad" at someone for wanting to obey the speed limit laws, make their life safer, and save some fuel.
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- #72 of 1788
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Re: Phoenix area photo radar stats [larsb]
by fintail
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Dec 31, 2008 (4:18 pm)
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Replying to: larsb (Dec 31, 2008 2:04 pm)
If you're going to play speed deputy, do it in the proper lane, and make far less people mad.
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- #73 of 1788
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Re: Phoenix area photo radar stats [fintail]
by larsb
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Jan 02, 2009 (7:10 am)
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Replying to: fintail (Dec 31, 2008 4:18 pm)
Actually, the middle lane is best in a three-lane freeway. That gives people two options when wanting to pass me.
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- #74 of 1788
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Re: Phoenix area photo radar stats [larsb]
by carnaught
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Jan 02, 2009 (7:33 am)
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Replying to: larsb (Jan 02, 2009 7:10 am)
Actually, the middle lane is best in a three-lane freeway. That gives people two options when wanting to pass me.
But, I just love it when I'm in the middle lane going about 7mph over the limit, the lanes around me are empty, yet I have someone tailgating me.
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- #75 of 1788
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Re: Phoenix area photo radar stats [fintail]
by euphonium
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Jan 02, 2009 (9:14 am)
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Replying to: fintail (Dec 31, 2008 4:18 pm)
"speed deputy" may provoke, but it is the provokee who decides to lose his cool, get mad, & commit road rage. Your reaction to stimulus is YOUR decision and YOUR weakness to think you are intimidated.
Not keeping chilled out is the weak man's imitation of strength.
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- #76 of 1788
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Re: Phoenix area photo radar stats [euphonium]
by fintail
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Jan 02, 2009 (9:52 am)
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Replying to: euphonium (Jan 02, 2009 9:14 am)
I don't get mad, I simply pass. 
Vehicular cholesterol in the form of self-righteous hybrids and squishy slow old land yachts piloted by wannabe authoritarians isn't exactly intimidating, either 
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Re: Phoenix area photo radar stats [carnaught]
by fintail
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Jan 02, 2009 (9:54 am)
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Replying to: carnaught (Jan 02, 2009 7:33 am)
Maybe they are drafting you to save fuel, and trying to make it so the photo revenue collector nabs you instead of them.
I will say, tailgating when there is easy room to pass is every bit as bad as LLCing.
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