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Replying to: fintail (Dec 30, 2008 11:30 am) Um, I would hope that EVERYONE HERE is concerned about reducing casualties and injuries and deaths and property damage !!!!
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Replying to: larsb (Dec 30, 2008 11:44 am) I'm sure everyone here does, you can get off your high horse now. Everyone here except you is also aware that driver inattention is far more important as a factor in causing accidents than speeding, this was the conclusion of a recent NHTSA Report. You may think there are a lot of speed-crazed drivers in Arizona but I don't think so. You ought to try driving from Boston to New Hampshire on I-93 North, no matter how fast you're going someone will pass you within the next five minutes. They drive too fast, Zonians do not. I am seldom passed by anyone in AZ while traveling within 5 mph of the limit, almost never if I push it to 8-10 over,
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Replying to: larsb (Dec 30, 2008 11:44 am) "Speed kills" accomplishes nothing.
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Replying to: andys120 (Dec 30, 2008 12:05 pm) 's How I Roll. |
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Replying to: fintail (Dec 30, 2008 12:09 pm) But it does. And it makes a bad wreck worse. If people want to pay the piper, then they can speed on, brother. Until they injure or kill someone I love ; at that point, their azz becomes mine.
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Replying to: larsb (Dec 30, 2008 12:40 pm)  Some claim speed kills...but reality doesn't line up with that. Of course, wannabe authoritarians don't live in reality.
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Replying to: fintail (Dec 30, 2008 12:57 pm) Just pointing out that unnecessary speeding kills young people and old people and average people and is a ridiculous and stupid cause of death. Anyone who harms anyone else during an act of stupidity SHOULD be ready to face the family of the injured and take society's punishment. And if the courts don't deal out proper justice, then..................? Speed does kill. The physics related to increased vehicle speed makes for more severe human tissue damage, and that directly causes death. It's just common sense. Saying speed does not kill is just a cop-out from people who want to speed. You don't believe me? Take a friend and the two of you get in an old car each without a seatbelt or airbag and drive into the same wall. You drive your car 60 mph and let your friend drive his car 20 mph into the wall. See who comes out in better shape. Speed doesn't kill....Puh-Leeze........
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Replying to: larsb (Dec 30, 2008 1:05 pm) Saying speed kills is a simple cop out by those who can't handle driving that requires driver inputs. The courts never dish out proper justice. Deal with it, you have no choice and no recourse. It's the American way. If you want to drive at the same speed as a Model T driver, just keep your backwards turtle in the right lane, where you belong.
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Replying to: larsb (Dec 30, 2008 1:05 pm)
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Replying to: fintail (Dec 30, 2008 2:34 pm) I'll believe that COMPLETELY after NASCAR has their first season with ZERO wrecks. After all, they are PROS who are obviously driving attentively and know how to handle speeds. Agreed? No matter how "good" drivers become and/or already are, accidents at 75 MPH are more severe and deadly (as a general rule) than the same accident at 55 MPH. I drive on "speed-camera-guarded" freeways here in the Phoenix area, and myself and others have noticed how much nicer it is to drive when you are not getting passed by QUITE as many jerks going 85 in the 65 zone. This is one of the famous "Autobahn" wreck pictures. You think this would have happened at 55 mph? 
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