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Replying to: fintail (Jan 17, 2009 8:01 pm) Does WASH have folks not qualified with "valid knowledge" and "credentials" putting in photo radar? How would a citizen determine if highway dept personnel are qualified or not? The places in my area that I have seen signs stating coverage by photo radar for red lights all made sense to me. Anyone getting a ticket for a red light or speeding offense when signs are posted should not only get an appropriate fine, but maybe should be required to take an iq test to determine level of stupidity. Should driver's license require a minimum level of iq?
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Replying to: xrunner2 (Jan 19, 2009 7:39 am) Voters should also face IQ hurdles, then...I believe it takes more mental capacity to drive competently at a decent speed than to slowly blunder around at an artificially low speed as one blindly defers to pointless laws made by thieves and criminals.
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Replying to: fintail (Jan 19, 2009 8:27 am) Disagree that it is "always" about revenue in what I observe. Traffic controls I see are generally ok. Speed limit adjustment around here makes sense, sometimes takes too long after citizen protest to get some lowered. Do not ever recall any local newspaper articles where citizens asking for higher speed limits. It is always about getting them lowered. Photo radar signs I have seen as well as aircraft traffic control signs are prominent and fair. Is definition of "decent speed" one that is higher than posted? Greater mental capacity to be able to go faster competently than posted limits? Seems that the need to exceed speed limits is immature and adolescent. Would agree on IQ level threshhold to vote. If we had same, then messiah would never have been a senator let alone pres. Don't see that "thieves and criminals" make traffic laws. Don't know to what extent politicians such as Blago, state sen messiah, etc., passed any traffic laws. Would guess that Illinois House and Senate upped 55 to 65 mph for overall state many years ago. Would hope that our State passes overall state ban on driver cell phone use. But, believe that day-to-day changes in traffic laws, speed limits, traffic signs and conrols are handled by state, county and township dots.
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Replying to: xrunner2 (Jan 19, 2009 9:15 am) Lowering speed limits is usually not progress. Of course the dumbed down masses want lower limits, some here think 55 is more than plenty on open highways. These people lack the insight to have a right to an opinion, IMO. Let the stupid have control, see what it brings you. We are experiencing it now. "Seems that the need to exceed speed limits is immature and adolescent" Traffic controls such as random speed limit changes, unsequenced lights, bizarre intersections, speed traps based on ease vs problematic roads - these are not "ok". It seems the need to adhere to undefendable laws simply because they are laws is mindless and regressive. The US doesn't need more sheeple - if that's possible. Simply because the gubbamint makes a rule doesn't mean it is just - in fact for the past generation or so, the rulemaking capacity can be argued to be as free from credibility as possible. If IQ was a measure for voting, there's also no way the Geezer/Dingbat ticket could have attained victory  DOTs as a whole are seldom the most logical and accountable organizations. Let's see them put up private sector levels of budgets and services, and see how long they last. |
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"'The video evidence the CPS sent me was just appalling. They are just picking on innocent motorists. It makes you wonder how many people say, "Fine, give me the points", when they are not guilty." Motorist beats 98mph speeding charge (Daily Mail).
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Replying to: steve_ (Jan 19, 2009 11:34 pm) Here, there is a camera in front with radar which takes the front picture, and signals a camera behind to take an almost-simultaneous picture, so the driver and the license plate pic are captured at the same instant, leaving zero opportunities for mistakes like this. The software pairs these two images together. You will not get sent a ticket if another car is blocking either the license plate shot or your face shot when the snaps are taken, which sometimes does happen.
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Replying to: larsb (Jan 20, 2009 6:26 am) It would be simple software program to compute average speed travelled between toll stations and determine if speed limit was exceeded and then levy appropriate fines. Am surprised that previous Illinois Gov, now in jail, and present Gov Blago, headed for jail perhaps, have not tapped into this huge revenue stream.
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Replying to: xrunner2 (Jan 20, 2009 6:42 am) 1. Put GPS "black box" in every new car sold. 2. Track where the car goes, and the roads, and the speed limits on each stretch of road. 3. When the system determines the driver is at any time driving 11+ MPH over the limit, issue a ticket right then. This way, we could track people's speed WHEREVER they went and keep them in line at all times. I'd vote for this, even if it added $500 to the cost of a new car.
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Replying to: larsb (Jan 20, 2009 7:35 am)
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