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#268 of 1788
Just to clarify.... by andys120
Jan 16, 2009 (4:11 pm)
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There is no such thing as a Fast Lane. The leftmost lane on a multilane highway is legally designated as the Passing Lane and is to be used for that purpose only except in cases of high traffic volume..
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Re: OK now you make me break out stats [xrunner2] by fintail
Jan 16, 2009 (6:30 pm)
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Replying to: xrunner2 (Jan 16, 2009 2:36 pm)

Speed enforcement in my area is usually built around cherry picking. Other than school zones, there is little rhyme or reason to enforcement and many of the speeds themselves. It's not entirely bad to tax the inattentive, but these laws must be built around the most hazardous roads, not the easiest places for well paid tax men to issue citations. But hey, no traffic cameras in my suburb, yet. I've been waiting for them to put one up at the light I have to run every now and then in the early morning, due to negligent programming by my fair city. Then maybe I can put together a class action suit against the city for all the time and gas wasted at their ignorantly managed lights.
 
If you knew how hopeless both gubernatorial choices were in WA, you wouldn't parrot things heard on Rush. Nothing was stolen, but the victim mentality neocon right around here are pretty bitter about their man, a puppet of property developers, inheritance elite "businessmen", and religious fanatics being beaten twice by a wicked witch, yes. No matter who you choose, you lose. But that's beside the point... None of them have any ability to deal with traffic issues.
 
Around here you can zip around like a madman on city streets and probably have less of a chance of being fined than cruising at 10 over on a wide open dry empty suburban road. The moderately busy road in front of my place is posted at 30mph...every now and then racers will fly up and down my hill at an easy 80+. I've lived here almost 4 years and have seen a cop speed trapping exactly twice. There's a road I know of a couple miles a way, wide open and underposted at 35mph, where many like to go 45-50, and it is perfectly safe. There is almost always a revenue enforcer hanging around in a certain spot.
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Re: OK now you make me break out stats [fintail] by vinnyny
Jan 17, 2009 (8:03 am)
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Replying to: fintail (Jan 16, 2009 6:30 pm)

"f you knew how hopeless both gubernatorial choices were in WA, you wouldn't parrot things heard on Rush. Nothing was stolen..."
 
Enough with the lefty revisionist history. Rossi and Gregoire are both stooges, but that doesn't give King County lefties the right to stuff ballot boxes with votes from dead people, convicted felons, and provisional ballots that were never verified. FACT: More ballots were counted in heavily-democrat King County than actually voted on election day. In spite of their efforts, Rossi won the real ballot count, followed by the machine recount. It took King County election officials "finding" ballots they hadn't previously counted before they got over the top by 133 votes. Even the democrat judge who ruled against Rossi admonished KC election officials. He called them "incompetent", but most honest people would call them "thieves". We're seeing the same thing in the Minnesota election. It's time for the federal government to take over all federal elections and states to take over state-wide elections. If King and Cook County want to keep electing political criminals to local offices, I don't care. But governorships and senate seats are too important. We don't even have to mention Presidential elections--there should never be any doubt that an election has been fair.
 
Back to photo radar: the same people who complain about others not obeying speed limits fail to acknowledge that impeding the flow of traffic is illegal as well.

As for the self-appointed speed enforcers: please don't whine when one of those overly-aggressive drivers road rages you into a ditch (or worse). If you want to help public servants do THEIR jobs and fight crime at the same time, try picking up some trash from the streets. You will be doing something you can brag to the other Prius drivers about and actually do the country some good at the same time.
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Re: OK now you make me break out stats [vinnyny] by fintail
Jan 17, 2009 (8:23 am)
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Replying to: vinnyny (Jan 17, 2009 8:03 am)

It's a liberal conspiracy! Enough with the copied and pasted victim mentality Faux News inspired claptrap...I suppose the en masse discarding of the legal challenges was a conspiracy too. Not that it matters, the public loses no matter who is in office...a shady fundie crony capitalist or a tax and spend stereotype. Governors and senators matter little in the long run, other forces control the nation.
 
But hey, someone of that ilk who isn't addicted to random speed limits, selective and asinine law enforcement, and adherence to any law simply because it exists. Refreshing
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Re: OK now you make me break out stats [fintail] by vinnyny
Jan 17, 2009 (8:35 am)
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Replying to: fintail (Jan 17, 2009 8:23 am)

Wow. Do you hear black helicopters circling overhead when you close your eyes?
 
Blind obedience to the law is just stupid--I'm glad all those tea drinkers in Boston weren't afraid to break a few idiotic rules.
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Re: OK now you make me break out stats [vinnyny] by fintail
Jan 17, 2009 (11:09 am)
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Replying to: vinnyny (Jan 17, 2009 8:35 am)

I don't support right or left conspiracies...both sides are crap.
 
Supporting laws simply because they exist is what the wannabe authoritarians always fall back on when their desires aren't able to be defended. We all know that doesn't produce progress or justice. 235 years ago, some men understood this.
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Re: OK now you make me break out stats [fintail] by xrunner2
Jan 17, 2009 (4:40 pm)
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Replying to: fintail (Jan 17, 2009 11:09 am)

More nonsense. Maybe some folks should just find and buy an island somewhere in the Pacific where they can then make their own rules. Is WASH really screwed up with bad laws? If so, get the aclu to help out or move to common sense, rock solid areas in the midwest.
 
Maybe Obama and Democrat stimulus plan for infrastructure can fund needed photo radar in WASH. But wait, maybe the next huge volcano some are predicting in WASH will make all matters there moot.
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Re: OK now you make me break out stats [xrunner2] by fintail
Jan 17, 2009 (8:01 pm)
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Replying to: xrunner2 (Jan 17, 2009 4:40 pm)

Nonsense yourself...other than in high risk areas such as school zones or perpetual accident areas, there is no such thing as "needed photo radar" at all - and an actual LEO is still superior there. WA isn't screwed up with bad laws, the western world is screwed up with bad laws. The UK, with easily the most speed cameras of anywhere, is a disaster in the making. Don't follow down their path. Those who make these rules lack the valid knowledge and credentials to do so, and their supporters do likewise.
 
For all the problems of this area, I'd still take it over the smarminess of some in "rural" Illinois, and the entitlement minded neocon loving over-leveraged shoddily built face brick mcmansion attitude that calls it home.
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Re: OK now you make me break out stats [xrunner2] by vinnyny
Jan 18, 2009 (11:49 am)
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Replying to: xrunner2 (Jan 17, 2009 4:40 pm)

Yup, you're right. All the non-lemmings should move somewhere else. But once we all leave, who will run the country for you? Big brother? Have fun in your Orwellian wonderland!
 
"Common sense, rock solid areas in the midwest"? Isn't Illinois, the most screwed up politically of all the states, still in the midwest? Isn't that where Blogo, Jesse Jackson (x2) and the "Rahminator" hail from? Please!
 
You should try getting on one of those newfangled things they call an "airplane" sometime and visit something beyond the corn fields (oops, I forgot that they're now called "gold mines" since those rock solid midwesterners sold the morons in DC on the ethanol scam). There's a world out there where people sometimes jaywalk and drive a little fast. A world where we still realize that politicians work FOR US and that laws should be written "by the people for the people".
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Re: OK now you make me break out stats [vinnyny] by xrunner2
Jan 19, 2009 (7:08 am)
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Replying to: vinnyny (Jan 18, 2009 11:49 am)

Yes, Illinois is hurting politically, but hurt caused by politicians from Chicago/Crook County. The messiah from Chicago worked vigorously on Blago 2002 Gov campaign and supported Blago in 2006. That is the "wisdom" of the messiah. Daley machine put in huge effort to get Emanuel elected in the Blago vacated US Rep Distict. Daley selected stooge Crook County President Todd Stroger who then implemented 10 percent sales tax, highest in nation.
 
Other persons of ill-repute also from Chicago-Crook are Rezko, priest Pflaeger, minister Wright, terrorist Ayers. One of the messiah's godfathers, Rush, was a terrorist who helped lead 68 Chicago Dem Convention riots. Illinois is a fine state if political part of Crook County were not considered.
 
On photo radar, more red-light camera being put in at busy intersections in business/commercial areas in my county. Recent newspaper article pointed out reduction in accidents at those intersections. Drivers inattentive or immature who get caught running red lights deserve heavy fines.

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