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Re: OK now you make me break out stats [euphonium] by fintail
Jan 16, 2009 (11:14 am)
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Replying to: euphonium (Jan 16, 2009 10:30 am)

I'll have a few of my friends do it too...multiple complaints
 
"We've got a distinguished looking older gentleman in a blue 90s Town Car on I5 in the left lane going 59 mph and pacing cars to his right...we don't want him to fall victim to some thug's piece, better pull him over and see if he's coherent"
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Re: OK now you make me break out stats [andre1969] by fintail
Jan 16, 2009 (11:17 am)
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Replying to: andre1969 (Jan 16, 2009 10:44 am)

That's the dangerous situation the self-titled traffic deputy creates, every bit as dangerous as someone going 30mph above the flow of traffic, as it creates chaos behind the slowpoke that he simply can't fathom. It's a shame someone didn't brake check him into a ditch or shoot out a tire.
 
Should speed cameras also get people going too slow for traffic conditions? Or maybe have a broken society like England where CCTVs are everywhere, and someone could simply watch cameras 24/7 and mail tickets both to the speedsters and the slowpokes. Interesting....
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Re: OK now you make me break out stats [xrunner2] by fintail
Jan 16, 2009 (11:20 am)
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Replying to: xrunner2 (Jan 16, 2009 10:26 am)

The old patriots considered themselves Americans before 1776 or 1787...
 
Massive amounts of civil disobedience, or less than civil disobedience, can also have an effect...that is, if the coward neocons like Paulson don't get their martial law dreams...
 
With laws made by sucks who are appointed by irresponsible fools who are appointed by cronies who are appointed by a committee who is chosen by someone who is allowed to be elected, it isn't an efficient process.
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Re: OK now you make me break out stats [andre1969] by dtownfb
Jan 16, 2009 (11:32 am)
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Replying to: andre1969 (Jan 16, 2009 10:44 am)

You just described my old commute from York to Towson. Riding the left lane is very common on I-83.
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Re: OK now you make me break out stats [fintail] by xrunner2
Jan 16, 2009 (2:36 pm)
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Replying to: fintail (Jan 16, 2009 11:20 am)

Speed limit laws are handled fairly well in the county I live in. In all the years here, they have been adjusted when conditions warannted. There are still some that are too high on roads running in the big commercial/business areas of the county.
 
Heard that WASH state has some weird politicians, maybe not as infamous as Illinois and its Crook County though. Didn't the Dems steal a Gov or Senate election within last 8 years in WASH?
 
Politicians, highway dept and our county dept people are very level headed and in stark contrast to Crook County where I lived many years ago.
 
Don't expect photo radar in any of nearby towns though. Police do a good job of enforcing mostly 30 mph limits, schools 20. I think mostly non-local drivers get nabbed for speeding and maybe younger drivers who have not yet learned to not exceed the limit. Locals know to tow the line and more importantly usually take it easy in town.
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Just to clarify.... by andys120
Jan 16, 2009 (4:11 pm)
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There is no such thing as a Fast Lane. The leftmost lane on a multilane highway is legally designated as the Passing Lane and is to be used for that purpose only except in cases of high traffic volume..
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Re: OK now you make me break out stats [xrunner2] by fintail
Jan 16, 2009 (6:30 pm)
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Replying to: xrunner2 (Jan 16, 2009 2:36 pm)

Speed enforcement in my area is usually built around cherry picking. Other than school zones, there is little rhyme or reason to enforcement and many of the speeds themselves. It's not entirely bad to tax the inattentive, but these laws must be built around the most hazardous roads, not the easiest places for well paid tax men to issue citations. But hey, no traffic cameras in my suburb, yet. I've been waiting for them to put one up at the light I have to run every now and then in the early morning, due to negligent programming by my fair city. Then maybe I can put together a class action suit against the city for all the time and gas wasted at their ignorantly managed lights.
 
If you knew how hopeless both gubernatorial choices were in WA, you wouldn't parrot things heard on Rush. Nothing was stolen, but the victim mentality neocon right around here are pretty bitter about their man, a puppet of property developers, inheritance elite "businessmen", and religious fanatics being beaten twice by a wicked witch, yes. No matter who you choose, you lose. But that's beside the point... None of them have any ability to deal with traffic issues.
 
Around here you can zip around like a madman on city streets and probably have less of a chance of being fined than cruising at 10 over on a wide open dry empty suburban road. The moderately busy road in front of my place is posted at 30mph...every now and then racers will fly up and down my hill at an easy 80+. I've lived here almost 4 years and have seen a cop speed trapping exactly twice. There's a road I know of a couple miles a way, wide open and underposted at 35mph, where many like to go 45-50, and it is perfectly safe. There is almost always a revenue enforcer hanging around in a certain spot.
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Re: OK now you make me break out stats [fintail] by vinnyny
Jan 17, 2009 (8:03 am)
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Replying to: fintail (Jan 16, 2009 6:30 pm)

"f you knew how hopeless both gubernatorial choices were in WA, you wouldn't parrot things heard on Rush. Nothing was stolen..."
 
Enough with the lefty revisionist history. Rossi and Gregoire are both stooges, but that doesn't give King County lefties the right to stuff ballot boxes with votes from dead people, convicted felons, and provisional ballots that were never verified. FACT: More ballots were counted in heavily-democrat King County than actually voted on election day. In spite of their efforts, Rossi won the real ballot count, followed by the machine recount. It took King County election officials "finding" ballots they hadn't previously counted before they got over the top by 133 votes. Even the democrat judge who ruled against Rossi admonished KC election officials. He called them "incompetent", but most honest people would call them "thieves". We're seeing the same thing in the Minnesota election. It's time for the federal government to take over all federal elections and states to take over state-wide elections. If King and Cook County want to keep electing political criminals to local offices, I don't care. But governorships and senate seats are too important. We don't even have to mention Presidential elections--there should never be any doubt that an election has been fair.
 
Back to photo radar: the same people who complain about others not obeying speed limits fail to acknowledge that impeding the flow of traffic is illegal as well.

As for the self-appointed speed enforcers: please don't whine when one of those overly-aggressive drivers road rages you into a ditch (or worse). If you want to help public servants do THEIR jobs and fight crime at the same time, try picking up some trash from the streets. You will be doing something you can brag to the other Prius drivers about and actually do the country some good at the same time.
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Re: OK now you make me break out stats [vinnyny] by fintail
Jan 17, 2009 (8:23 am)
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Replying to: vinnyny (Jan 17, 2009 8:03 am)

It's a liberal conspiracy! Enough with the copied and pasted victim mentality Faux News inspired claptrap...I suppose the en masse discarding of the legal challenges was a conspiracy too. Not that it matters, the public loses no matter who is in office...a shady fundie crony capitalist or a tax and spend stereotype. Governors and senators matter little in the long run, other forces control the nation.
 
But hey, someone of that ilk who isn't addicted to random speed limits, selective and asinine law enforcement, and adherence to any law simply because it exists. Refreshing
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Re: OK now you make me break out stats [fintail] by vinnyny
Jan 17, 2009 (8:35 am)
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Replying to: fintail (Jan 17, 2009 8:23 am)

Wow. Do you hear black helicopters circling overhead when you close your eyes?
 
Blind obedience to the law is just stupid--I'm glad all those tea drinkers in Boston weren't afraid to break a few idiotic rules.

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