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Re: Wow [grbeck] by larsb
Jan 16, 2009 (9:05 am)
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Replying to: grbeck (Jan 16, 2009 8:42 am)

There you go again, accusing people who don't think as you do of merely being "gullible and uninformed." ( you really need to reign in that behavior - it's neither attractive nor effective in helping you make your point - you just irritate people when you say that. )
 
Can't post a link, but an editorial today in the Tempe Republic news was written by a local who passes through the most-strictly-enforced photo radar areas in Tempe every day.
 
He says he "has noticed people driving slower" in the areas where most of the cameras are. He himself makes sure he slows down in those areas.
 
That's the second recent article ( the other one was a freeway driver who drives
daily in the photo radar freeway areas ) which was commented on by a local that they appreciate the slower-moving traffic and the reduced number of speed demons on the roads.
 
That's all the cameras need to do. Slow down excessively speeding drivers. They are serving the intended purpose, AND taxing the excessive speeders to help with revenue.
 
For those who drive according to the posted laws, nothing will change. For those who drive anyway they want, smile and wait for the flash. For those who ignore your photo radar ticket, don't complain later when things get worse for you.
 
The laws are there to govern us because speeders cannot be trusted to do it ourselves. Speeders have no one to blame but themselves.
 
Blaming the guvmint for sending you a speeding ticket is like blaming someone else for anything YOU YOURSELF have done - immature and an indicator of lack of character.
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Re: Wow [larsb] by fintail
Jan 16, 2009 (9:46 am)
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Replying to: larsb (Jan 16, 2009 9:05 am)

"commented on by a local that they appreciate the slower-moving traffic and the reduced number of speed demons on the roads. "
 
Probably a Buick driving retiree, or an self-righteous hybrid pseudo-motorist....
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Re: OK now you make me break out stats [xrunner2] by euphonium
Jan 16, 2009 (10:13 am)
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Replying to: xrunner2 (Jan 16, 2009 6:59 am)

My opiinion is that initimidator will not be able to go faster than I am, and I will usually not move over for this situation.
 
And why should you? I agree with your opinion.
 
Have you noticed the proponents of driving too fast use all kinds of non applicable reasons for you to get out of their way? They resent you playing "speed cop", expect you to "get out of their way". They imply it is discourteous to prevent them from breaking the speed limit law. They mention "lane discipline" while ignoring "speed discipline".
 
Well, their attitude gives me courage to stay at the speed limit in the Left, fast, lane.
 
If you don't do your duty by blocking the speeder and he crashes down the road and kills himself, you have aided and abetted his reckless driving by contributing to his selfish and reckless driving style.
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Re: OK now you make me break out stats [euphonium] by fintail
Jan 16, 2009 (10:17 am)
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Replying to: euphonium (Jan 16, 2009 10:13 am)

"If you don't do your duty by blocking the speeder"
 
I'll do my duty by calling in the LLC as a suspected drunk driver ...luckily most 90s Ford products don't have an exceptional amount of passing power, so there's only so much "blocking" they can do. Have fun talking to the cop who nabs your piece of vehicular cholesterol.
 
If Americans blindly followed all laws simply because they are laws, the United States would have never been born.
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Re: Fastest drivers usually most reckless [grbeck] by xrunner2
Jan 16, 2009 (10:18 am)
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Replying to: grbeck (Jan 16, 2009 8:36 am)

Intimidators lack self control and are in need of more than lane discipline. Would be great if some new invention/technology photo or whatever would document and send ticket/fine to all intimidators. This could be mounted on all overpasses and on all tall light standards and without signs warning of same.
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Re: OK now you make me break out stats [fintail] by xrunner2
Jan 16, 2009 (10:26 am)
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Replying to: fintail (Jan 16, 2009 10:17 am)

There were no Americans (US citizens) before the US was born.
 
Age-old procedure: if one does not like a law, work to get it changed or repealed.
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Re: OK now you make me break out stats [fintail] by euphonium
Jan 16, 2009 (10:30 am)
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Replying to: fintail (Jan 16, 2009 10:17 am)

"I'll do my duty by calling in the SPEED DEMON as a suspected drunk driver.
 
Works both ways, eh?
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Re: OK now you make me break out stats [fintail] by andre1969
Jan 16, 2009 (10:44 am)
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Replying to: fintail (Jan 16, 2009 10:17 am)

I'll do my duty by calling in the LLC as a suspected drunk driver
 
LOL, I actually did that once, on my way to PA. For the most part, the speed limit on I-83 is 65 mph up north of Baltimore. Well, this guy decided he wanted to roll around 55-60, in the fast lane. He'd pick some slow-moving vehicle like a big truck, RV, or bus in the slow lane, and pace it. People started getting miffed and passing on the shoulder and such. And drivers were starting to pack in tighter and tighter as they got frustrated, closing the gaps between the cars, and making it harder for drivers to merge in at the entrance ramps.
 
There were several near-misses as people tried to get around this guy. As soon as whatever slow-moving vehicle he was pacing turned off, he'd punch it, speed up, and find some other slowpoke to pace. He also swerved a little too close to a tractor trailer.
 
At that point, I called 911 and reported him. Scary thing was, the cop on the other end said "Is it a gray Cavalier?" Yep! Evidently, I wasn't the only one who had called in! Unfortunately, this idiot was able to get away with it for about 40 miles, and I doubt if he ever got caught. My exit came up, and just beyond, I-83 did a split, where you went East towards Harrisburg or West towards Carlisle.
 
There have also been a couple cases where someone in a private car would cut me off. I'd honk the horn at them, and they'd flash a badge at me. At that point, I called the cops and reported a reckless driver impersonating a police officer.
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Re: OK now you make me break out stats [euphonium] by fintail
Jan 16, 2009 (11:14 am)
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Replying to: euphonium (Jan 16, 2009 10:30 am)

I'll have a few of my friends do it too...multiple complaints
 
"We've got a distinguished looking older gentleman in a blue 90s Town Car on I5 in the left lane going 59 mph and pacing cars to his right...we don't want him to fall victim to some thug's piece, better pull him over and see if he's coherent"
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Re: OK now you make me break out stats [andre1969] by fintail
Jan 16, 2009 (11:17 am)
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Replying to: andre1969 (Jan 16, 2009 10:44 am)

That's the dangerous situation the self-titled traffic deputy creates, every bit as dangerous as someone going 30mph above the flow of traffic, as it creates chaos behind the slowpoke that he simply can't fathom. It's a shame someone didn't brake check him into a ditch or shoot out a tire.
 
Should speed cameras also get people going too slow for traffic conditions? Or maybe have a broken society like England where CCTVs are everywhere, and someone could simply watch cameras 24/7 and mail tickets both to the speedsters and the slowpokes. Interesting....

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