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Replying to: larsb (Jan 15, 2009 1:08 pm) The 17 percent drop in accidents can easily be attributed to Americans driving fewer miles in 2008 or more people using public transportation to save money. I'm not sure one year gives you enough data to support that photo radar is reducing accidents. |
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Replying to: larsb (Jan 14, 2009 6:06 am) First, not everyone who tailgates is exceeding the speed limit. So, if everyone - the person tailgating, and the vehicle in front - is driving the speed limit, or even, say 9 mph over, photo radar will not catch them, by your own admission. This is especially true on urban and suburban streets, where most people do drive the speed limit or about 10 mph over. Second, on limited access highways, if someone is WANTING TO GO FASTER, than the proper response for the person in front should be to yield. That is why limited access highways have multiple lanes, and one is generally called the "fast lane." Don't see how photo radar will solve that problem. |
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Replying to: xrunner2 (Jan 14, 2009 6:24 am) That shows the need for better lane discipline, not photo radar.
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Replying to: larsb (Jan 15, 2009 1:08 pm) Maybe for the gullible and uninformed...but not those of us who realize that accidents and fatalities dropped dramatically throughout the nation in early 2008, thanks to reduced driving, brought about by higher gas prices, and then the recession. That quote "proves" nothing, except that photo radar advocates apparently can only "prove" its effectiveness by latching on to a trend that is taking place throughout the nation.
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Replying to: grbeck (Jan 16, 2009 8:42 am) Can't post a link, but an editorial today in the Tempe Republic news was written by a local who passes through the most-strictly-enforced photo radar areas in Tempe every day. He says he "has noticed people driving slower" in the areas where most of the cameras are. He himself makes sure he slows down in those areas. That's the second recent article ( the other one was a freeway driver who drives daily in the photo radar freeway areas ) which was commented on by a local that they appreciate the slower-moving traffic and the reduced number of speed demons on the roads. That's all the cameras need to do. Slow down excessively speeding drivers. They are serving the intended purpose, AND taxing the excessive speeders to help with revenue. For those who drive according to the posted laws, nothing will change. For those who drive anyway they want, smile and wait for the flash. For those who ignore your photo radar ticket, don't complain later when things get worse for you. The laws are there to govern us because speeders cannot be trusted to do it ourselves. Speeders have no one to blame but themselves. Blaming the guvmint for sending you a speeding ticket is like blaming someone else for anything YOU YOURSELF have done - immature and an indicator of lack of character.
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Replying to: larsb (Jan 16, 2009 9:05 am) Probably a Buick driving retiree, or an self-righteous hybrid pseudo-motorist.... |
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Replying to: xrunner2 (Jan 16, 2009 6:59 am) And why should you? I agree with your opinion. Have you noticed the proponents of driving too fast use all kinds of non applicable reasons for you to get out of their way? They resent you playing "speed cop", expect you to "get out of their way". They imply it is discourteous to prevent them from breaking the speed limit law. They mention "lane discipline" while ignoring "speed discipline". Well, their attitude gives me courage to stay at the speed limit in the Left, fast, lane. If you don't do your duty by blocking the speeder and he crashes down the road and kills himself, you have aided and abetted his reckless driving by contributing to his selfish and reckless driving style.
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Replying to: euphonium (Jan 16, 2009 10:13 am) I'll do my duty by calling in the LLC as a suspected drunk driver  ...luckily most 90s Ford products don't have an exceptional amount of passing power, so there's only so much "blocking" they can do. Have fun talking to the cop who nabs your piece of vehicular cholesterol. If Americans blindly followed all laws simply because they are laws, the United States would have never been born.
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Replying to: grbeck (Jan 16, 2009 8:36 am) |
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Replying to: fintail (Jan 16, 2009 10:17 am) Age-old procedure: if one does not like a law, work to get it changed or repealed.
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