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Wow by larsb
Jan 15, 2009 (1:08 pm)
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53,218 citations issued from one Tempe camera in 2008
 
Now that the system is broader and issuing more violations, it'll soon be easier to tell if the cameras are making a dent in the accident numbers. There are good signs, Johnson said: In 2008, the number of accidents fell 17 percent.
 
Think how much Tempe police manpower it would have taken, and the amount of overtime paid, to issue this many tickets by human.
 
That camera did the work of 10 cops issuing 15 tickets each in an 8-hour shift.
 
Tempe is already facing a $10 million + budget deficit. The revenue from the cameras is going to be very helpful.
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Re: Wow [larsb] by oregonboy
Jan 15, 2009 (1:34 pm)
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Replying to: larsb (Jan 15, 2009 1:08 pm)

Budget deficit, phase one:
"We need more money, install red-light traffic cameras on every intersection!"
"Yes sir! Will do."
 
phase two:
"We need more money, install speed traffic cameras every 1/4 mile!"
"Yes sir! We'll get right on that!"
 
phase three:
"Traffic has slowed down, ticket revenue is down. Reduce the grace-margin from 9 mph to 1 mph!"
"Right away, Sir!"
 
phase four:
"Still not enough revenue!!! Make the grace-margin a negative 2 mph and cut the yellow on traffic lights to a tenth of a second!!!"
"Okay, if you're certain. We can do that!"
 
phase five:
"Excuse me, Sir? Sir! There's a mob outside the courthouse with torches and pitchforks."
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Re: Wow [oregonboy] by andre1969
Jan 15, 2009 (1:53 pm)
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Replying to: oregonboy (Jan 15, 2009 1:34 pm)

I'm sure the body shops, doctors, lawyers, new car dealerships, undertakers, etc, appreciate the extra business that gets generated by those shorter yellows, too.
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Re: Wow [oregonboy] by larsb
Jan 15, 2009 (1:53 pm)
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Replying to: oregonboy (Jan 15, 2009 1:34 pm)

Very funny. Don't quit your day job though.
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Re: Wow [oregonboy] by fintail
Jan 15, 2009 (2:21 pm)
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Replying to: oregonboy (Jan 15, 2009 1:34 pm)

Just another way for the overpaid underworked minions of local government to avoid cutting the fat....and to aid in the illicit fortunes of crony capitalist camera operators.
 
The situation in England isn't so rosy...but the blindly deferrent and the wannabe authoritarians will emrace no less.
 
The land of Orwellian surveillance finds problems
 
But maybe these results will be different in NA
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Re: OK now you make me break out stats [euphonium] by vinnyny
Jan 15, 2009 (2:56 pm)
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Replying to: euphonium (Jan 14, 2009 8:43 pm)

Apparently you've never sat behind that Prius in the left lane doing ten UNDER the limit while the driver yaps away on her cell phone about how she's saving the planet.
 
It doesn't matter how fast you're going in the left lane--if somebody pulls up behind you, you should move to the right when safe.
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Re: OK now you make me break out stats [vinnyny] by andys120
Jan 15, 2009 (3:08 pm)
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Replying to: vinnyny (Jan 15, 2009 2:56 pm)

It doesn't matter how fast you're going in the left lane--if somebody pulls up behind you, you should move to the right when safe.
 
Amen, Keep to the right except when passing is a basic rule of the road that provides for the best safety and traffic movement. If you are in the middle or left lanes of multilane roads you should be passing traffic on your right and you should move over for faster traffic. It is not for you to enforce speed laws by blocking lanes, it violates basic traffic flow principles,and you have no way of knowing if the person behind has a legitimate reason for going fast.
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Re: Wow [larsb] by oregonboy
Jan 15, 2009 (5:35 pm)
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Replying to: larsb (Jan 15, 2009 1:53 pm)

The point that I was making with the 5 Phases of Budget-Driven Social Engineering is that once that door is opened, you can be certain that the applications will become more far-reaching and invasive. The profit-motive is a powerful force and the bureaucratic machine is remorseless.
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Re: Wow [oregonboy] by larsb
Jan 16, 2009 (5:55 am)
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Replying to: oregonboy (Jan 15, 2009 5:35 pm)

My response to that is "SO FRICKIN/FLIPPIN WHAT?" if they are making money from voluntary contributors ?????
 
Anyone who
 
a) knows there are cameras around, and
b) keeps speeding on, brother !!
 
is a willing and giving participant to the local budget crisis.
 
If you don't want to be "speed taxed" then just stop excessively speeding. It doesn't get any easier or more straight forward than that.

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