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1788 messages, Last post on Nov 14, 2009 at 3:43 PM

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#209 of 1788 Re: Accuracy? However, it is a good story. [euphonium] by steve_ HOST Jan 10, 2009 (10:55 am)
Replying to: euphonium (Jan 10, 2009 10:01 am) There's a UK version involving a Sidewinder missile too (Snopes)
#210 of 1788 Re: Accuracy? However, it is a good story. [euphonium] by oldfarmer50 Jan 10, 2009 (11:02 am)
Replying to: euphonium (Jan 10, 2009 10:01 am) "...Before the missile was launched..." Makes you wish they stocked Sidewinder missiles at the auto parts store. Although to be accurate you should ask for a HARM.
#211 of 1788 Re: PHOTO RADAR IS UNCONSTITUTIONAL [vinnyny] by andys120 Jan 10, 2009 (11:28 am)
Replying to: vinnyny (Jan 10, 2009 7:50 am) I'd be curious as to what State this ticket was issued in. This incident confirms my suspicion that it's all about the $$$$$. Most likely you'll get no satisfaction from the courts but you should collect the amount of the fine from your daughter or whoever was driving at the time. Replies to this message: oldfarmer50 (Jan 10, 2009 12:01 pm) berri (Jan 10, 2009 12:06 pm) vinnyny (Jan 10, 2009 7:19 pm) oldfarmer50 (Jan 11, 2009 7:25 am) and 1 more... euphonium (Jan 11, 2009 7:15 pm)
#212 of 1788 Re: PHOTO RADAR IS UNCONSTITUTIONAL [andys120] by oldfarmer50 Jan 10, 2009 (12:01 pm)
Replying to: andys120 (Jan 10, 2009 11:28 am) "...This incident confirms my suspicion..." As it does mine. To take this to an extreme example lets say your car is stolen and used to rob a bank. The bank cameras catch the crook driving away from the scene. The police arrest you and you are sent to jail. You say to the judge, "but you can see from the photo that it wasn't me driving the getaway car". The judge responds "well, if you can identify the crook and tell us where he lives we'll let you go". How absurd would that be? I would tell the OP to fight the ticket as the judge seems really out of line. It would probably cost much more to do that than to just pay up. That may be just what the court is counting on. Replies to this message: berri (Jan 10, 2009 12:06 pm) vinnyny (Jan 10, 2009 7:19 pm) oldfarmer50 (Jan 11, 2009 7:25 am) vinnyny (Jan 11, 2009 12:14 pm) euphonium (Jan 11, 2009 7:15 pm)
#213 of 1788 Re: PHOTO RADAR IS UNCONSTITUTIONAL [oldfarmer50] by berri Jan 10, 2009 (12:06 pm)
Replying to: oldfarmer50 (Jan 10, 2009 12:01 pm) Face it, its just a money grab by cities and states that can't live within their budgets.
#214 of 1788 Re: PHOTO RADAR IS UNCONSTITUTIONAL [oldfarmer50] by vinnyny Jan 10, 2009 (7:19 pm)
Replying to: oldfarmer50 (Jan 10, 2009 12:01 pm) The critical difference in your scenario is that the thief was driving the vehicle illegally--without the owner's permission. My daughter has permission to drive the car (it's essentially hers). Replies to this message: oldfarmer50 (Jan 11, 2009 7:25 am) vinnyny (Jan 11, 2009 12:14 pm) euphonium (Jan 11, 2009 7:15 pm)
#215 of 1788 Re: PHOTO RADAR IS UNCONSTITUTIONAL [carnaught] by vinnyny Jan 10, 2009 (7:21 pm)
Replying to: carnaught (Jan 10, 2009 9:39 am) Yup. The choice was give up the guilty party, pay the ticket, or try running from my bench warrant. So, I paid the ticket and collected from my daughter's idiot boyfriend.
#216 of 1788 Re: Accuracy? However, it is a good story. [euphonium] by vinnyny Jan 10, 2009 (7:27 pm)
Replying to: euphonium (Jan 10, 2009 10:01 am) The story is bogus--except perhaps the part where the radar gun picked up the Hornet's speed. Even that part is very questionable--as someone who has flown low-level, 300 knots, directly over highly-motivated, well-armed enemies, a small aircraft is very difficult to lock on to.
#217 of 1788 Re: PHOTO RADAR IS UNCONSTITUTIONAL [vinnyny] by oldfarmer50 Jan 11, 2009 (7:25 am)
Replying to: vinnyny (Jan 10, 2009 7:19 pm) "...The critical difference in your scenario is that the thief was driving the vehicle illegally--without the owner's permission. My daughter has permission to drive the car..." I did say that I was using an extreme example to make a point. However, my example still applies to your situation. Your daughter may essentially own the car but is still LEGALLY yours. Unless you gave the boyfriend permission to drive it he was guilty of unauthorized use. Less serious than bank robbery but still illegal. My original point was that the court should not make you responsible for identifying a violator of the law. That is the job for which we hire police and which is what would have happened if photo radar was not being used as a substitute for a human cop. Replies to this message: vinnyny (Jan 11, 2009 12:14 pm)
#218 of 1788 Re: PHOTO RADAR IS UNCONSTITUTIONAL [oldfarmer50] by vinnyny Jan 11, 2009 (12:14 pm)
Replying to: oldfarmer50 (Jan 11, 2009 7:25 am) I'm with you. If only the people who get paid to interpret and enforce the Constitution understood it as well as the common man. Perhaps if advocates like the ACLU spent more time on issues affecting real Americans rather than terrorists who don't even live in this country, we'd get this sorted out once and for all... That said, I lived in Hawaii when they first tried the speed vans and the ACLU filed suit. There was such outrage that HI gave up on the photo radar idea.

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