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Accuracy? However, it is a good story. by euphonium
Jan 10, 2009 (10:01 am)
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Two California Highway Patrol Officers were conducting speeding enforcement on I-15, just north of the Marine Corps Air Station at Miramar . One of the officers was using a hand held radar device to check speeding vehicles approaching the crest of a hill. The officers were suddenly surprised when the radar gun began reading 300 miles per hour. The officer attempted to reset the radar gun, but it would not reset and then turned off.
 
 Just then a deafening roar over the treetops revealed that the radar had in fact locked on to a USMC F/A-18 Hornet which was engaged in a low flying exercise near the location.
Back at the CHP Headquarters the Patrol Captain fired off a complaint to the USMC Base Commander. The reply came back in true USMC style:
 
~ ~ ~
 
Thank you for your letter. We can now complete the file on this incident.
 
 You may be interested to know that the tactical computer in the Hornet had detected the presence of, and subsequently locked on to your hostile radar equipment and automatically sent a jamming signal back to it, which is why it shut down.
 
 Furthermore, an Air-to-Ground missile aboard the fully armed aircraft had also automatically locked on to your equipment location.
 
 Fortunately, the Marine Pilot flying the Hornet recognized the situation for what it was, quickly responded to the missile system alert status and was able to override the automated defense system before the missile was launched to destroy the hostile radar position.
  
 
   
 
The pilot also suggests you cover your mouths when cussing at them, since the video systems on these jets are very high tech.
 
 Sergeant Johnson, the officer holding the radar gun, should get his dentist to check his left rear molar. It appears the filling is loose. Also, the snap is broken on his holster.
 
    Thank you for your concern.
 
    Semper Fi
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Re: Accuracy? However, it is a good story. [euphonium] by steve_ HOST
Jan 10, 2009 (10:55 am)
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Replying to: euphonium (Jan 10, 2009 10:01 am)

There's a UK version involving a Sidewinder missile too (Snopes)
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Re: Accuracy? However, it is a good story. [euphonium] by oldfarmer50
Jan 10, 2009 (11:02 am)
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Replying to: euphonium (Jan 10, 2009 10:01 am)

"...Before the missile was launched..."
 
Makes you wish they stocked Sidewinder missiles at the auto parts store. Although to be accurate you should ask for a HARM.
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Re: PHOTO RADAR IS UNCONSTITUTIONAL [vinnyny] by andys120
Jan 10, 2009 (11:28 am)
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Replying to: vinnyny (Jan 10, 2009 7:50 am)

I'd be curious as to what State this ticket was issued in. This incident confirms my suspicion that it's all about the $$$$$.
 
Most likely you'll get no satisfaction from the courts but you should collect the amount of the fine from your daughter or whoever was driving at the time.
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Re: PHOTO RADAR IS UNCONSTITUTIONAL [andys120] by oldfarmer50
Jan 10, 2009 (12:01 pm)
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Replying to: andys120 (Jan 10, 2009 11:28 am)

"...This incident confirms my suspicion..."
 
As it does mine. To take this to an extreme example lets say your car is stolen and used to rob a bank. The bank cameras catch the crook driving away from the scene. The police arrest you and you are sent to jail.
 
You say to the judge, "but you can see from the photo that it wasn't me driving the getaway car". The judge responds "well, if you can identify the crook and tell us where he lives we'll let you go".
 
How absurd would that be?
 
I would tell the OP to fight the ticket as the judge seems really out of line. It would probably cost much more to do that than to just pay up. That may be just what the court is counting on.
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Re: PHOTO RADAR IS UNCONSTITUTIONAL [oldfarmer50] by berri
Jan 10, 2009 (12:06 pm)
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Replying to: oldfarmer50 (Jan 10, 2009 12:01 pm)

Face it, its just a money grab by cities and states that can't live within their budgets.
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Re: PHOTO RADAR IS UNCONSTITUTIONAL [oldfarmer50] by vinnyny
Jan 10, 2009 (7:19 pm)
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Replying to: oldfarmer50 (Jan 10, 2009 12:01 pm)

The critical difference in your scenario is that the thief was driving the vehicle illegally--without the owner's permission. My daughter has permission to drive the car (it's essentially hers).
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Re: PHOTO RADAR IS UNCONSTITUTIONAL [carnaught] by vinnyny
Jan 10, 2009 (7:21 pm)
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Replying to: carnaught (Jan 10, 2009 9:39 am)

Yup. The choice was give up the guilty party, pay the ticket, or try running from my bench warrant. So, I paid the ticket and collected from my daughter's idiot boyfriend.
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Re: Accuracy? However, it is a good story. [euphonium] by vinnyny
Jan 10, 2009 (7:27 pm)
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Replying to: euphonium (Jan 10, 2009 10:01 am)

The story is bogus--except perhaps the part where the radar gun picked up the Hornet's speed. Even that part is very questionable--as someone who has flown low-level, 300 knots, directly over highly-motivated, well-armed enemies, a small aircraft is very difficult to lock on to.
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Re: PHOTO RADAR IS UNCONSTITUTIONAL [vinnyny] by oldfarmer50
Jan 11, 2009 (7:25 am)
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Replying to: vinnyny (Jan 10, 2009 7:19 pm)

"...The critical difference in your scenario is that the thief was driving the vehicle illegally--without the owner's permission. My daughter has permission to drive the car..."
 
I did say that I was using an extreme example to make a point. However, my example still applies to your situation. Your daughter may essentially own the car but is still LEGALLY yours. Unless you gave the boyfriend permission to drive it he was guilty of unauthorized use. Less serious than bank robbery but still illegal.
 
My original point was that the court should not make you responsible for identifying a violator of the law. That is the job for which we hire police and which is what would have happened if photo radar was not being used as a substitute for a human cop.

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