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What is important is that the enforcement tool be used to catch Red light runners and any other law breaker especially those who think they can drive too fast and safe at the same time. The big brother argument is bogus. "Catch em if you can and any way you can, but catch em." Force discipline back into driving any way that is effective.
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Replying to: euphonium (Dec 24, 2008 11:35 am) Speed cameras solve no problems other than giving more money to the big government self-titled conservatives claim to abhor. And I can't forget they aid the illicit fortunes of crooked crony capitalist camera operators, who are untouchable in this dying society and are the biggest threat to any kind of viable future. What logic is used by automatically dismissing the windfall profits reaped by those who do not deserve their ill-begotten wealth? Talk about "bogus"... |
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"civil disobedience" is defined as the Liberal's tantrum . "windfall profit" is defined as the Liberal's jealousy of the Capitalist's earnings. The logic of automatically dismissing the profits reaped by camera companies is that they are effective at making transportation safer than otherwise. If the liberal driver was as concerned about his safe driving as he is about other's profits, photo cameras would not be as necessary as they are today. Most Libers have never held a job that wasn't paid by a taxpayer. As such explains their acceptance of "profits". |
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Replying to: euphonium (Dec 25, 2008 10:07 am)  Speed cameras have not been proven effective in the insane Orwellian surveillance grid police state of England, which has the most of any nation in the world and has pioneered the ideal of camera driven revenue creation based on arbitrary speed limits set by cowardly politicos who deserve to meet a noose in the middle of the night. But maybe the cameras will be different on this continent - right. Useless laws and shameless cash grabs by weak minded public sector dolts are the same no matter which nation is at hand. Most silent generation "capitalists" have exaggerated fortunes built on either inheritance, cronyism, a complete vacuum of ethics, or a decidedly yellow combination of either. Most are unwilling to face these facts about those who are truly creating the problems in society, and who have dodged accountability for decades. The inbred hicks one sees speeding around in their clapped out jacked up SUVs and pickups aren't "libers"... Merry Christmas! 
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Replying to: euphonium (Dec 25, 2008 10:07 am) Statements like that, which are obviously wrong to anyone paying attention, cast doubt upon everything you say... rightly or otherwise.  I have to think that both you and fin are too extreme in your views. Certainly there is some safety benefit from speed and red light cameras. And revenue generation is unquestionably a major factor in their implementation. But I don't believe that is sufficient cause to advocate vigilante lynching in the dead of night. Personally, I am greatly annoyed by the "me first" types who steal time from the cross traffic by continuing to stream across the intersection after the light has changed. But I believe that the robotic enforcement of traffic law is in violation of constitutional protections, to be able to confront our accusers. So put my name in the "against" column. Happy Holidays, James (oregonboy)
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Replying to: oregonboy (Dec 25, 2008 9:53 pm) You are correct in Criminal cases, but violating a photo radar device is not a criminal, but civil class of infraction, not requiring your criminal application. A showcase example of Libers being supported by the taxpayer, give a close look at the incoming President, his staff and his advisors. Sprinkled with a few Academia nuts as well. All of them never met a tax they didn't like.
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Replying to: euphonium (Dec 26, 2008 9:58 am) There's another statement that diminishes your credibility. Aside from the fact that it is an untrue stereotype and that many of us think Obama and his "Libers" will do better than the outgoing "Cons" it has no bearing whatever on the matter at hand. |
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All of this is for moot - from everything I have seen on this continent, the legal loopholes for these cash grab cameras are as wide as the butt on the average neocon GOP crony capitalist - simply contest the ticket, using blatant lies if need be, have it be tossed out, and be on your way. No harm, no foul "A showcase example of Libers being supported by the taxpayers" Really hard to get credibility there coming from someone who worships at the throne of military-industrial profiteers and the inheritance elite (aka the past 8 years of hell we've endured). |
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I reside in the Peoples Republic of The Northwest & some others are not citizens, but they retain their old country values while taking advantage of being here. 
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