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Re: OK now you make me break out stats [cz75] by larsb
Jan 09, 2009 (10:58 am)
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Replying to: cz75 (Jan 09, 2009 9:58 am)

My guess is that if the swerver had taken out a light pole or a pedestrian, crime scene analysis would have determined his/her speed as "excessive" and he/she would most likely have been charged with "unsafe speed" at the very least.
 
You drive 25 in a 25 zone, and the cause would be the kid's ball. You drive 40, and excessive speed becomes the culprit.
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Re: OK now you make me break out stats [larsb] by andre1969
Jan 09, 2009 (11:18 am)
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Replying to: larsb (Jan 09, 2009 10:58 am)

You drive 25 in a 25 zone, and the cause would be the kid's ball. You drive 40, and excessive speed becomes the culprit.
 
Depends. You could be driving 40 mph and be paying attention to the road ahead, and end up stopping in time. Or you could be yakking on the cell or playing with your Ipod or putting on makeup at 25 mph, and still end up causing a big mess.
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One of the advantages of PR is by euphonium
Jan 09, 2009 (11:35 am)
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it provides investment income to purchase more PRs until the motorcycle cop hiding behind the billboard can be replaced and do something more than mundane ticket writing.
 
The investment income can be allocated to filling pot holes,fixing guard rails, and building attitude adjustment chambers.
 
The only monetary concern of the violator is not where the fine money goes, but how the fine originates. When the violator doesn't want to come up with the fine, he can always submit to the law. It's another "Pay as you Go" idea.
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Re: OK now you make me break out stats [larsb] by grbeck
Jan 09, 2009 (2:07 pm)
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Replying to: larsb (Jan 09, 2009 10:09 am)

You are getting off track here. We are talking about limited access highways. In Arizona and in the other 49 states, children are not playing ball along limited access highways. People aren't driving 70 mph through subdivisions, and no one here is advocating that they do, so it may be useful to put that red herring back in the water where it belongs.
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Re: One of the advantages of PR is [euphonium] by fezo
Jan 09, 2009 (2:08 pm)
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Replying to: euphonium (Jan 09, 2009 11:35 am)

Man oh man this is going around in circles.
 
I'm pretty much against any camera enforcement of traffic rules. One only need look at the fact that they generally do not carry points to see that deep down they don't believe these are enforceable tickets but, as has been pointed out to a fault here, but revenue enhancers.
 
I should go agreeing with larsb if only so grbeck can invite me for lunch. Unlike lars i could get to Harrisburg on one tank of gas.
 
I think the age observation isn't accurate. I'll be 58 tomorrow and the only thing slowing me down was adjusting to $4 gas over the summer. My cheapness won out over my thrill seeking.
 
Where the heck do you get fresnel lenses for license plates anyway?
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Re: OK now you make me break out stats [andre1969] by grbeck
Jan 09, 2009 (2:09 pm)
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Replying to: andre1969 (Jan 09, 2009 11:18 am)

Now, andre, stop bringing logic and real-world experience to this thread!
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Re: OK now you make me break out stats [grbeck] by fezo
Jan 09, 2009 (2:31 pm)
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Replying to: grbeck (Jan 09, 2009 2:09 pm)

Absolutely! It doesn't fit.....
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Re: OK now you make me break out stats [grbeck] by larsb
Jan 09, 2009 (2:43 pm)
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Replying to: grbeck (Jan 09, 2009 2:07 pm)

Wasn't even addressing any point you made.
 
I was addressing the gentleman who mentioned that speed does not cause accidents and pointing out to him in a NICE MANNERLY FASHION that yes, sometimes it DOES cause accidents.
 
Go Photo Radar !!!
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Re: One of the advantages of PR is [euphonium] by fintail
Jan 09, 2009 (3:04 pm)
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Replying to: euphonium (Jan 09, 2009 11:35 am)

The investment income will be used to give more above-market perks to worthless public sector executives, and to engage in more asinine useless projects like the WSP and WSDOT combining their collective room temperature IQs to blow tens of thousands of dollars on big dots for I5.
 
When well connected crony capitalist camera operators skim off fortunes from ticket revenues, the taxpaying citizen has every right to know where the money goes, and should take legal or less than legal action against any irresponsible politoco who tries to hide it.
 
If one doesn't want to pay the fine, simply fib your way out of it. Easy as pie
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Re: One of the advantages of PR is [euphonium] by andre1969
Jan 09, 2009 (3:39 pm)
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Replying to: euphonium (Jan 09, 2009 11:35 am)

The investment income can be allocated to filling pot holes,fixing guard rails, and building attitude adjustment chambers.
 
Wait, didn't we spend four years trying to overthrow a regime like that back in the 1940's?
 
As for that "investment income", rest assured it would go into some politician's pet project, or a pyramid scheme somewhere, and we'd still have just as many potholes, broken guardrails, etc, as before.

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