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#1760 of 1788 Re: The birth of Big Brother across the pond? [vcheng] by berri Aug 17, 2009 (4:24 pm)
Replying to: vcheng (Aug 17, 2009 8:24 am) They tell you all these wonderful platitudes about how traffic cameras can save the world from crime and all, but it is really just about $$$. They've jacked up taxes so high they had to find new revenue streams. In Illinois, all Chicago and Cook county know is how to blow money and raise taxes, even as they sell off their future assets to cover current day expenses. No politician there knows how to cut spending. I suppose too many patronage jobs would be on the line. The crime and safety line makes good PR to cover up the new tax revenue reality of it. I suppose the irony of the whole thing is that as the cameras get better, the same cops who talk about how great traffic cameras are will be laid off and replaced by the very cameras they sold the public on accepting. Sad, but its the new line of politics at work. Cash is king! Replies to this message: xrunner2 (Sep 21, 2009 1:23 pm) vinnyny (Sep 21, 2009 3:53 pm) xrunner2 (Sep 22, 2009 1:42 pm) and 2 more...
#1761 of 1788 Claims vs. Reality by vcheng Aug 24, 2009 (8:11 am)
For all the lofty claims about how cameras help enhance our safety, there is just no evidence that that is indeed the case. Take a read of this story from the Land of Big Brother:   from: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/6081549/One-crime-solved-for-every-- - 1000-CCTV-cameras-senior-officer-claims.html   One crime solved for every 1,000 CCTV cameras, senior officer claims Just one crime is solved a year by every 1,000 CCTV cameras in Britain's largest force area, it was claimed today. Published: 1:59PM BST 24 Aug 2009   A senior Scotland Yard officer, Detective Chief Inspector Mick Neville, warned police must do more to head off a crisis in public confidence over the use of surveillance cameras.   DCI Neville said officers need to improve their results to make captured images count against criminals.   He said there are more than a million CCTV cameras in London and the Government has spent £500 million on the crime-fighting equipment.   But he admitted just 1,000 crimes were solved in 2008 using CCTV images as officers fail to make the most of potentially vital evidence.   Writing in an internal report, Mr Neville said people are filmed many times every day and have high expectations when they become victims of crime.   But he suggested the reality is often disappointing as in some cases officers fail to bring criminals to justice even after they are caught on camera and identified.   DCI Neville said CCTV played a role in capturing just eight out of 269 suspected robbers across London in one month.   Critics of Britain's so-called ''surveillance state'' will seize on DCI Neville's comments as further evidence CCTV is not working in the fight against crime.   The Government is considering whether every camera should be registered on centrally-held CCTV maps.   Earlier this year a Home Office report found camera schemes have a ''modest impact'' on reducing crime.   Researchers found cameras were most effective in preventing vehicle thefts and vandalism in car parks.   Some local authorities have been forced to make freedom of information requests to police forces to try and work out if CCTV cameras are effective.   The Metropolitan Police is piloting a scheme, known as Operation Javelin, to improve the use of images from existing cameras.   Staff in 11 boroughs have formed dedicated Visual Images Identification and Detection Offices (VIIDO).   They collect and label images before passing them to a central circulation unit that distributes them to officers, forces and the media.   Some 5,260 images have been viewed so far this year with identification made in more than 1,000 cases.   DCI Neville said the scheme should be expanded to force-wide as officers make the investigation of CCTV evidence as professional as fingerprints and DNA.   David Davis, the former shadow home secretary said it is ''entirely unsurprising'' that the report highlights some shortcomings of CCTV.   ''It should provoke a major and long overdue rethink on where the Home Office crime prevention budget is being spent," he said.   ''CCTV leads to massive expense and minimum effectiveness. It creates a huge intrusion on privacy, yet provides little or no improvement in security.   ''The Metropolitan Police has been extraordinarily slow to act to deal with the ineffectiveness of CCTV, something true both in London and across the country.''   Detective Superintendent Michael McNally, who commissioned the report, said improvements in the use of CCTV can be made.   He told Sky News: ''There are some concerns, and that's why we have a number of projects that are on-going at the moment.   ''CCTV, we recognise, is a really important part of investigation and prevention of crime, so how we retrieve that from the individual CCTV pods is really quite important.''   A Metropolitan Police spokesman said: ''The Metropolitan Police is currently the only police service to employ this method of CCTV tracking.''
#1762 of 1788 smile by steve_ HOST Aug 25, 2009 (8:24 am)
Bob blogs about the Maryland kids using speed cameras for revenge. Isn't technology grand? In my day we'd just call the cops and report that our teachers were driving "erratically." Replies to this message: vcheng (Aug 25, 2009 8:35 am)
#1763 of 1788 Re: smile [steve_] by vcheng Aug 25, 2009 (8:35 am)
Replying to: steve_ (Aug 25, 2009 8:24 am) That is an oldie but a goodie about how easy automated enforcement can lead to all sorts of pranks, some more serious than others.   A cop making a stop can identify the vehicle to which a registration is issued to, and cross check with the VIN if needed on the spot, but a camera cannot.   Just another point asserting that one cannot rely on cameras to do police work.
#1764 of 1788 Larsb Is That YOU? by oldfarmer50 Sep 13, 2009 (5:53 am)
According to the Associated Press a 47 year-old flight attendant from Phoenix with a lead foot has racked up thousands of dollars' worth of speeding tickets. The police have been unable to get a conviction because the driver wears a monkey mask while driving making it impossible to ID the driver. More than 50 of the tickets have become invalid because they expired.   Now cops have surveillance photos of the guy donning the monkey mask and want him to pay $6700 for 37 still valid tickets.   I guess they spent some of the $23 million in revenue photo radar has generated to track him down.   That's what I like about America, someone will always find a way to solve a problem. Personally, I'd like to see people hang tea bags in front of the camera lens.
#1765 of 1788 Smile! Speed Cams Snap Alice Cooper by lilengineerboy Sep 20, 2009 (6:41 am)
Musician Alice Cooper was caught on video driving 59 mph in a 45-mph zone in May, the Scottsdale Police Department confirmed Monday with the release of four images snapped by photo-enforcement cameras.   Nice of them to release mugshots for speeding now.
#1767 of 1788 If you like Radar cameras, you'll love this by euphonium Sep 21, 2009 (1:12 pm)
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2009873854_medina16m.html
#1768 of 1788 Re: The birth of Big Brother across the pond? [berri] by xrunner2 Sep 21, 2009 (1:23 pm)
Replying to: berri (Aug 17, 2009 4:24 pm) I suppose the irony of the whole thing is that as the cameras get better, the same cops who talk about how great traffic cameras are will be laid off and replaced by the very cameras they sold the public on accepting. No, they will be put to work cleaning up the crime in Chicago in prep for 2016 Olympics. Then after Olympics, the chump taxpayers in Chicago and Cook County will have to pony up with extra taxes to pay for all the underfunded Olympic infrastructure. Replies to this message: vinnyny (Sep 21, 2009 3:53 pm) xrunner2 (Sep 22, 2009 1:42 pm) vinnyny (Sep 22, 2009 5:15 pm) steve_ (Sep 22, 2009 5:23 pm)
#1769 of 1788 Re: The birth of Big Brother across the pond? [xrunner2] by vinnyny Sep 21, 2009 (3:53 pm)
Replying to: xrunner2 (Sep 21, 2009 1:23 pm) You don't really believe that Chicago taxpayers will pay a dime for the Olympics, do you? Perhaps you didn't notice that Michelle Obama is leading the charge to get the olympics for her beloved town. You can bet there will be lots of stimulus monty flowing to IL to pay for the new infrastructure. It may be hidden money, but it will be there. The Obamas will bring home the bacon--you can count on it. Replies to this message: xrunner2 (Sep 22, 2009 1:42 pm) vinnyny (Sep 22, 2009 5:15 pm) steve_ (Sep 22, 2009 5:23 pm)

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