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1788 messages, Last post on Nov 14, 2009 at 3:43 PM
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Replying to: fintail (May 11, 2009 10:30 am) That would be a respectful attitude. Oughta consider it. I guess I was raised to respect authority.
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Replying to: vcheng (May 11, 2009 9:57 am) And just think of the unintended consequences. Well, you can't think of them, but you get my drift.  Trust but verify. Respect but question. I think I'm channeling the old bumper sticker discussion that got lost in the archives years ago.
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Replying to: steve_ (May 11, 2009 10:55 am) That you for the very well worded post Steve_Host. One of the thoughts that comes to mind is whether some of the consequences that at least you and I can foresee are indeed intentional, and just hiding behind a grab of safety or some other ruse to make them acceptable. The future is going to be interesting indeed!
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Replying to: larsb (May 11, 2009 10:39 am) It's a nice theory, but when badges are not gained via legitimate competency, they lose a lot of value. Respect must be earned.
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Replying to: fintail (May 11, 2009 12:50 pm) |
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Replying to: steve_ (May 11, 2009 9:08 am) Okay here is what they have: ASLD - automatic speed limiting device - like cruise control except the inverse, you activate it and your can can't go any faster than the set speed. This gets a safety point in EU scoring. Speed sign recognition - camera sees speed limit sign and can either automatically or with driver intervention set the ASLD to that speed. Adaptive Cruise Control w/automatic braking - car speeds up and slows down with traffic on the freeway...if speeds get below a certain speed, it drops out and the driver has to take over. ACC w/stop and go - has the ability to stop and start again, based on some criteria that varies between automakers. This won't work for things like stop signs because the system can't "see" if there are other cars waiting for their turn. There are also systems like Volvo's "City Safety" that will brake for you if it thinks you are not paying attention and are at risk for a frontal collision. |
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Replying to: steve_ (May 11, 2009 9:48 am) Riiiiight. At best, it was a band-aid for poorly designed traffic flow in an urban area. At worst, some neighbor complained to the point they installed a stop sign. There is a stop sign where I grew up that is at the base of someone's driveway. We made it a point in high school to either skid to a stop there or side step the clutch there in an mode of transportation when encountering that stop sign. In Michigan, I can think of several places where there are endless stop signs for no reason. Its because they are cheap and compensate for lack of planning. Things like "traffic calming devices" and "perceptual countermeasures" work much better while not waisting fuel, time or money. The other thing that drives me nuts, as long as I am on a rant. and its tied to red-light cameras a little, is lights that are not timed. You can't just stick traffic lights in willie-nillie. Idiots. Take a class in urban planning. Counties in Michigan should be sued for how much fuel they make their constituents waist every year at lights that should be timed better, or not there in the first place.
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