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Re: Intelligent Speed Adaptation [xrunner2] by fintail
May 11, 2009 (10:31 am)
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Replying to: xrunner2 (May 11, 2009 10:14 am)

I don't live in Illinois I am sure my area is no less competent than any other, but the sector of the working world allowed to oversee traffic control is less competent than most.
 
Real change isn't created by mere elections...never has been, never will be.
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Re: Intelligent Speed Adaptation [fintail] by larsb
May 11, 2009 (10:39 am)
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Replying to: fintail (May 11, 2009 10:30 am)

fintail says, "you agree with anything done by anyone wearing a badge."
 
That would be a respectful attitude. Oughta consider it.
 
I guess I was raised to respect authority.
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Re: Intelligent Speed Adaptation [vcheng] by steve_ HOST
May 11, 2009 (10:55 am)
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Replying to: vcheng (May 11, 2009 9:57 am)

I think that this "Yes" is more far-reaching
 
And just think of the unintended consequences. Well, you can't think of them, but you get my drift.
 
Trust but verify. Respect but question.
 
I think I'm channeling the old bumper sticker discussion that got lost in the archives years ago.
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Re: Intelligent Speed Adaptation [steve_] by vcheng
May 11, 2009 (11:05 am)
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Replying to: steve_ (May 11, 2009 10:55 am)

Exactly.
 
That you for the very well worded post Steve_Host.
 
One of the thoughts that comes to mind is whether some of the consequences that at least you and I can foresee are indeed intentional, and just hiding behind a grab of safety or some other ruse to make them acceptable.
 
The future is going to be interesting indeed!
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Re: Intelligent Speed Adaptation [larsb] by fintail
May 11, 2009 (12:50 pm)
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Replying to: larsb (May 11, 2009 10:39 am)

That's an attitude which has resulted in absolutely no progress in the history of humanity, and is exactly the opposite of what the US was founded upon. Thanks, but no thanks.
 
It's a nice theory, but when badges are not gained via legitimate competency, they lose a lot of value.
 
Respect must be earned.
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Re: Intelligent Speed Adaptation [fintail] by larsb
May 11, 2009 (1:00 pm)
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Replying to: fintail (May 11, 2009 12:50 pm)

The fact that we don't live in a barbaric society ruled by warlords (like some countries are) is proof that the military and law enforcement HAS done what it needs to do to earn my respect - And Yours Too.
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Re: Intelligent Speed Adaptation [steve_] by lilengineerboy
May 11, 2009 (6:23 pm)
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Replying to: steve_ (May 11, 2009 9:08 am)

An "adaptive" cruise control has some appeal I suppose. It also seems to be showing that the surface streets where it was tested were mostly signed with limits that are too slow.
 
Okay here is what they have:
 
ASLD - automatic speed limiting device - like cruise control except the inverse, you activate it and your can can't go any faster than the set speed. This gets a safety point in EU scoring.
 
Speed sign recognition - camera sees speed limit sign and can either automatically or with driver intervention set the ASLD to that speed.
 
Adaptive Cruise Control w/automatic braking - car speeds up and slows down with traffic on the freeway...if speeds get below a certain speed, it drops out and the driver has to take over.
 
ACC w/stop and go - has the ability to stop and start again, based on some criteria that varies between automakers. This won't work for things like stop signs because the system can't "see" if there are other cars waiting for their turn.
 
There are also systems like Volvo's "City Safety" that will brake for you if it thinks you are not paying attention and are at risk for a frontal collision.

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