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Re: Intelligent Speed Adaptation [fintail] by larsb
May 11, 2009 (10:09 am)
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Replying to: fintail (May 11, 2009 10:03 am)

Well, I have driven all over Phoenix AZ and it's suburbs for the last 13.5 years, and I have yet to see a single stop sign where I felt it was not needed.
 
I guess those fat-cat, lying, cheating city council members trying to "waste money on silly stop signs and keep the maintenance department uselessly employed" didn't make it this far west yet.
 
Stop signs have NOTHING to do with road safety, right?
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Re: Intelligent Speed Adaptation [fintail] by xrunner2
May 11, 2009 (10:14 am)
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Replying to: fintail (May 11, 2009 10:03 am)

No doubt erecting and maintaining needless signs are good make work projects for overpaid public sector workers too...
 
Could be that the city/township/county/state you live in is most incompetent in the whole of US. I rarely see questionable signs in my area of State nor other parts of State or nearby States I frequent. Maybe a local group motivated drivers (on the left coast) of like mind, say Drivers Against Photo Radar and Stupid Signs (DAPRSS), could start a movement to make their case and bring reform they desire.
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Re: Intelligent Speed Adaptation [larsb] by fintail
May 11, 2009 (10:30 am)
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Replying to: larsb (May 11, 2009 10:09 am)

Of course, you agree with anything done by anyone wearing a badge or wearing a title that means their salary is funded by taxpayers.
 
Every stop sign does not relate to road safety, no, and slowing to 2mph instead of stopping at a deserted stop sign has nothing to do with road safety either.
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Re: Intelligent Speed Adaptation [xrunner2] by fintail
May 11, 2009 (10:31 am)
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Replying to: xrunner2 (May 11, 2009 10:14 am)

I don't live in Illinois I am sure my area is no less competent than any other, but the sector of the working world allowed to oversee traffic control is less competent than most.
 
Real change isn't created by mere elections...never has been, never will be.
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Re: Intelligent Speed Adaptation [fintail] by larsb
May 11, 2009 (10:39 am)
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Replying to: fintail (May 11, 2009 10:30 am)

fintail says, "you agree with anything done by anyone wearing a badge."
 
That would be a respectful attitude. Oughta consider it.
 
I guess I was raised to respect authority.
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Re: Intelligent Speed Adaptation [vcheng] by steve_ HOST
May 11, 2009 (10:55 am)
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Replying to: vcheng (May 11, 2009 9:57 am)

I think that this "Yes" is more far-reaching
 
And just think of the unintended consequences. Well, you can't think of them, but you get my drift.
 
Trust but verify. Respect but question.
 
I think I'm channeling the old bumper sticker discussion that got lost in the archives years ago.
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Re: Intelligent Speed Adaptation [steve_] by vcheng
May 11, 2009 (11:05 am)
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Replying to: steve_ (May 11, 2009 10:55 am)

Exactly.
 
That you for the very well worded post Steve_Host.
 
One of the thoughts that comes to mind is whether some of the consequences that at least you and I can foresee are indeed intentional, and just hiding behind a grab of safety or some other ruse to make them acceptable.
 
The future is going to be interesting indeed!
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Re: Intelligent Speed Adaptation [larsb] by fintail
May 11, 2009 (12:50 pm)
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Replying to: larsb (May 11, 2009 10:39 am)

That's an attitude which has resulted in absolutely no progress in the history of humanity, and is exactly the opposite of what the US was founded upon. Thanks, but no thanks.
 
It's a nice theory, but when badges are not gained via legitimate competency, they lose a lot of value.
 
Respect must be earned.
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Re: Intelligent Speed Adaptation [fintail] by larsb
May 11, 2009 (1:00 pm)
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Replying to: fintail (May 11, 2009 12:50 pm)

The fact that we don't live in a barbaric society ruled by warlords (like some countries are) is proof that the military and law enforcement HAS done what it needs to do to earn my respect - And Yours Too.

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