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1788 messages, Last post on Nov 14, 2009 at 3:43 PM
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Replying to: larsb (May 11, 2009 9:35 am) Or simply some rich old piece of garbage property owner who thought cars going past his fiefdom at 20mph was too much and wanted to break up the flow, and lobbied the city to get his way. That's the way this society works, you know. Prove your claims of educated decisions by these "traffic engineers". I can drive through a city and see very little to support it, just like with arbitrary speed limits and asininely-designed roadways. |
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Replying to: larsb (May 11, 2009 9:39 am)  Yes, your claims of experience are less than impressive to my eyes. Carry on... |
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Replying to: steve_ (May 11, 2009 9:48 am) No doubt erecting and maintaining needless signs are good make work projects for overpaid public sector workers too...just like the maintenance and observation of data from CCTV networks is a good way to keep the worthless employed.
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Replying to: fintail (May 11, 2009 10:03 am) I guess those fat-cat, lying, cheating city council members trying to "waste money on silly stop signs and keep the maintenance department uselessly employed" didn't make it this far west yet. Stop signs have NOTHING to do with road safety, right?
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Replying to: fintail (May 11, 2009 10:03 am) Could be that the city/township/county/state you live in is most incompetent in the whole of US. I rarely see questionable signs in my area of State nor other parts of State or nearby States I frequent. Maybe a local group motivated drivers (on the left coast) of like mind, say Drivers Against Photo Radar and Stupid Signs (DAPRSS), could start a movement to make their case and bring reform they desire.
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Replying to: larsb (May 11, 2009 10:09 am) Every stop sign does not relate to road safety, no, and slowing to 2mph instead of stopping at a deserted stop sign has nothing to do with road safety either.
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Replying to: xrunner2 (May 11, 2009 10:14 am)  I am sure my area is no less competent than any other, but the sector of the working world allowed to oversee traffic control is less competent than most. Real change isn't created by mere elections...never has been, never will be.
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Replying to: fintail (May 11, 2009 10:30 am) That would be a respectful attitude. Oughta consider it. I guess I was raised to respect authority.
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Replying to: vcheng (May 11, 2009 9:57 am) And just think of the unintended consequences. Well, you can't think of them, but you get my drift.  Trust but verify. Respect but question. I think I'm channeling the old bumper sticker discussion that got lost in the archives years ago.
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Replying to: steve_ (May 11, 2009 10:55 am) That you for the very well worded post Steve_Host. One of the thoughts that comes to mind is whether some of the consequences that at least you and I can foresee are indeed intentional, and just hiding behind a grab of safety or some other ruse to make them acceptable. The future is going to be interesting indeed!
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