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by larsb
Jan 08, 2009 (12:56 pm)
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grbeck says, "Many of us believe that that the extra fuel used at higher speeds is worth it when balanced against the time saved, extra safety and the fact that it is usually more pleasurable to drive faster on limited access highways."
 
Your statement has three parts:
 
1. "the extra fuel used at higher speeds is worth it when balanced against the time saved." - That is a worthy opinion and I would agree with that. I do that on long trips - the faster I get there the better I like it. But I don't violate speed laws to do it.
 
2. "extra safety" - Complete poppycock. Driving faster is not safer in any stretch, unless driving slower would cause to you get rear-ended.
 
3. "the fact that it is usually more pleasurable to drive faster on limited access highways" - True for some people, but mostly only younger males. When you get older, driving is more of a CHORE than any kind of FUN. The faster you drive, the more you need to pay complete attention to the road, which is why younger drivers who drive fast have more fatal accidents.
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Re: Actually, of course, there are justifiable speeders [grbeck] by larsb
Jan 08, 2009 (12:59 pm)
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Replying to: grbeck (Jan 08, 2009 12:53 pm)

You are one of the rare people who still get a "thrill" out of driving fast at age 46. I commend you for that at least.
 
And I have no problem with people driving 80 in a 75 zone - I do that myself. When you get above 85 though, your reaction time to avoid a potential problem is far far reduced.
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Photo Radar by steve_ HOST
Jan 08, 2009 (1:02 pm)
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Y'all are posting too fast for me to pop in and kill the off-topic personal comments, but let's at least try to get back to photo radar and whether it should be implemented or not, and where.
 
And try to keep it civil.
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Re: Photo Radar [steve_] by larsb
Jan 08, 2009 (1:06 pm)
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Replying to: steve_ (Jan 08, 2009 1:02 pm)

Steve says, "And try to keep it civil."
 
I'm trying, but he keeps sniping away at me. ( You know I have learned through trial and error that attacking the person instead of the idea is not proper round here. )
 
Anyway, I am a fan of Photo Radar and anything else that gets people to pay attention to how fast they are driving.
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Re: Photo Radar [larsb] by steve_ HOST
Jan 08, 2009 (1:07 pm)
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Replying to: larsb (Jan 08, 2009 1:06 pm)

Not to point fingers but some of y'all sound like bald men fighting over combs.
 
Carry on....
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Re: [larsb] by grbeck
Jan 08, 2009 (1:11 pm)
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Replying to: larsb (Jan 08, 2009 12:56 pm)

larsb: 1. "the extra fuel used at higher speeds is worth it when balanced against the time saved." - That is a worthy opinion and I would agree with that. I do that on long trips - the faster I get there the better I like it. But I don't violate speed laws to do it.
 
Most people have a more sophisticated understanding of how speed limits work on limited access highways, why they are imposed, and their effectiveness, and therefore do not rank them with the Ten Commandments.
  
larsb: 2. "extra safety" - Complete poppycock. Driving faster is not safer in any stretch, unless driving slower would cause to you get rear-ended.
 
If anything, driving too slow can increase inattention. People are driving faster than ever, and roads are safer than ever, so, sorry, your contention that exceeding today's underposted speed limits makes limited access highways dangerous is not being borne out by real-world experience.
  
larsb: 3. "the fact that it is usually more pleasurable to drive faster on limited access highways" - True for some people, but mostly only younger males. When you get older, driving is more of a CHORE than any kind of FUN. The faster you drive, the more you need to pay complete attention to the road, which is why younger drivers who drive fast have more fatal accidents.
 
Many older people still love to drive, and don't consider it a chore - unless we are forced to toddle along at 65 mph or less to satisfy the slow and the clueless.
 
If YOU don't like to drive because of your age - although 43 is hardly old today - then I'd suggest moving to the city, selling your car and using mass transit.
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what? by larsb
Jan 08, 2009 (1:14 pm)
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grbeck says, "Most people have a more sophisticated understanding of how speed limits work on limited access highways,"
 
Now, what exactly is that supposed to mean? If that is not an unfounded, totally heinous personal attack, then explain what you mean sir.
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Re: [grbeck] by larsb
Jan 08, 2009 (1:22 pm)
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Replying to: grbeck (Jan 08, 2009 1:11 pm)

Hey, grbeck: my kid needs a 500+ word essay for school.
 
I'm going to say "Margarine is better for you than Butter" and you give me a rebuttal. Ready, GO !!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
JK....(sorta)..........you do have a propensity for long-winded replies though.
 
P.S. By the by: "unless we are forced to toddle along at 65 mph or less to satisfy the slow and the clueless." - Is that another personal attack?
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Re: I "winter" in AZ... [euphonium] by fintail
Jan 08, 2009 (1:22 pm)
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Replying to: euphonium (Jan 08, 2009 11:29 am)

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Re: Photo Radar [steve_] by larsb
Jan 08, 2009 (1:25 pm)
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Replying to: steve_ (Jan 08, 2009 1:07 pm)

I'm not bald yet......in fact not even a thinning spot or a minor recede at age 45.....Lucky Me !!!

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