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Re: you're about to irritate me....... [grbeck] by larsb
Jan 08, 2009 (11:35 am)
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Replying to: grbeck (Jan 08, 2009 10:34 am)

Believe me kind sir, I do indeed know the difference.
 
Speed/Fuel chart
 
Driving 10 mph faster than the speed limit increases fuel consumption by 20%. Increase speed to 20 mph faster than necessary and the extra gas wastage climbs to 25%. Stay within the speed limit to stretch your fuel budget further.
 
link title
 

 
Any more challenges to the "driving faster wastes fuel" FACT?
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Actually, it's kind of fun by larsb
Jan 08, 2009 (11:44 am)
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In my opinion, it's kind of fun having people call a fact an opinion and then proving that the fact is actually a fact and not an opinion after all.........
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Re: Actually, it's kind of fun [larsb] by steve_ HOST
Jan 08, 2009 (11:46 am)
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Replying to: larsb (Jan 08, 2009 11:44 am)

Actually Grbeck defined waste differently from you. Doesn't make him wrong, nor does your definition trump another valid one.
 
There's wasting gas and wasting time.
 
(and save the pot shots about which one we're doing in here. )
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Re: Actually, it's kind of fun [steve_] by larsb
Jan 08, 2009 (12:04 pm)
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Replying to: steve_ (Jan 08, 2009 11:46 am)

MY only contention about this particular sub-topic is that driving faster and speeding at higher speeds wastes fuel.
 
There is no other acceptable definition of that. Driving 85 uses more fuel than driving 75, and 75 uses more fuel than 65. That's wasting fuel when your car is capable of going 65 mph instead of 85 mph.
 
Time is not an issue in that definition. I'm not disputing anyone else's definition.
 
I missed his definition - which post was that?
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Re: Actually, it's kind of fun [larsb] by steve_ HOST
Jan 08, 2009 (12:10 pm)
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Replying to: larsb (Jan 08, 2009 12:04 pm)

No, driving 75 uses more fuel.
 
Whether it's wasted or not depends on your priorities. (post 121).
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Re: Actually, it's kind of fun [steve_] by larsb
Jan 08, 2009 (12:13 pm)
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Replying to: steve_ (Jan 08, 2009 12:10 pm)

When you put it that way, then the point becomes that speeders are wasting a valuable resource to all of us and should be called on the fact that they are selfish to the point of saying, "I'll waste fuel if I choose to and you will like it !!"
 
If they want to get somewhere faster, leave 5 minutes earlier.
 
I say let them drive as fast as they want - just don't let them complain when they get the Photo Radar ticket. Pay up and zip up.
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Actually, of course, there are justifiable speeders by larsb
Jan 08, 2009 (12:19 pm)
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There are valid reasons to speed, like taking someone to a hospital in an emergency, etc.
 
This topic is more about the role of Photo Radar.
 
Isn't there another topic named "Is Speeding Morally Wrong, Illegal, Wasteful, and Stupid, Or Is It Just Me?"
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Re: Actually, it's kind of fun [larsb] by steve_ HOST
Jan 08, 2009 (12:25 pm)
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Replying to: larsb (Jan 08, 2009 12:13 pm)

"I'll waste fuel if I choose to and you will like it !!"
 
It's the American way.
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Re: Actually, it's kind of fun [steve_] by larsb
Jan 08, 2009 (12:36 pm)
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Replying to: steve_ (Jan 08, 2009 12:25 pm)

Sad but true I'm afeared.
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Re: Actually, of course, there are justifiable speeders [larsb] by oregonboy
Jan 08, 2009 (12:36 pm)
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Replying to: larsb (Jan 08, 2009 12:19 pm)

"Is Speeding Morally Wrong, Illegal, Wasteful, and Stupid, Or Is It Just Me?"
 
It's just you...

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