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OK now you make me break out stats by larsb
Jan 08, 2009 (10:51 am)
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Well, at least in one state, speeding is the number one cause of accidents:
 
In fact, reports by the New York State Police show that the following factors (in order) cause the most accidents - and all of them are under the driver's control:
 
   1. Speeding
   2. Unsafe or too-frequent lane changing
   3. Not using turn signals
   4. Tailgating
   5. Not yielding the right of way
   6. Ignoring traffic signals
   7. Driving while impaired by alcohol or chemicals.

 
from this page:
 
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Reckless driving and speeding resulted in 508 deaths in Alabama. The economic cost of speeding related accidents was approximately $534 million in 2004. Source: State Traffic Safety Information – NHTSA – March 2006
 
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Over two-thirds of all drivers felt it was a good idea to use photo enforcement devices to reduce speeding, not obeying stop signs and running red lights. Those who thought photo enforcement was a good idea said it would decrease the occurrence of these unsafe actions and that it would provide solid proof of the violation. Conversely, those who thought it was a bad idea in these three situations, cited privacy concerns and a preference for personal interaction. When asked about using photo enforcement in specific locations, over two-thirds felt the devices would curtail added congestion from the "pullover" scene, particularly in places where it is hazardous to stop. An even higher number of drivers supported the implementation of the photo enforcement devices in locations where crashes frequently occurred (four in five) and in school zones (nine in ten).

 
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Re: OK now you make me break out stats [larsb] by berri
Jan 08, 2009 (11:02 am)
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Replying to: larsb (Jan 08, 2009 10:51 am)

Careful with surveys, you can manipulate the statistics and the results. I might buy cameras in high crime areas to fight felonies, but not for simple misdemeanor stuff like red lights and speed.
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Re: I "winter" in AZ... [fintail] by euphonium
Jan 08, 2009 (11:04 am)
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Replying to: fintail (Jan 08, 2009 10:17 am)

Only if you subscribe to the myth, "Two wrongs make a right".
#147 of 1787
Re: I "winter" in AZ... [euphonium] by fintail
Jan 08, 2009 (11:08 am)
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Replying to: euphonium (Jan 08, 2009 11:04 am)

Isn't that the American way?
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Re: slow down or pay the piper [larsb] by oregonboy
Jan 08, 2009 (11:28 am)
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Replying to: larsb (Jan 08, 2009 10:20 am)

You get the last word. I'm man enough to let you have it. I'll not comment further on the issue with you.
 
wrong again
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Re: I "winter" in AZ... [fintail] by euphonium
Jan 08, 2009 (11:29 am)
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Replying to: fintail (Jan 08, 2009 11:08 am)

Yes and reserved for Americans only. If you can't vote here, you don't count here.
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Re: slow down or pay the piper [oregonboy] by larsb
Jan 08, 2009 (11:34 am)
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Replying to: oregonboy (Jan 08, 2009 11:28 am)

I meant the specific issue presented by his post. Not the ENTIRE topic.
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Re: you're about to irritate me....... [grbeck] by larsb
Jan 08, 2009 (11:35 am)
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Replying to: grbeck (Jan 08, 2009 10:34 am)

Believe me kind sir, I do indeed know the difference.
 
Speed/Fuel chart
 
Driving 10 mph faster than the speed limit increases fuel consumption by 20%. Increase speed to 20 mph faster than necessary and the extra gas wastage climbs to 25%. Stay within the speed limit to stretch your fuel budget further.
 
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Any more challenges to the "driving faster wastes fuel" FACT?
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Actually, it's kind of fun by larsb
Jan 08, 2009 (11:44 am)
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In my opinion, it's kind of fun having people call a fact an opinion and then proving that the fact is actually a fact and not an opinion after all.........
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Re: Actually, it's kind of fun [larsb] by steve_ HOST
Jan 08, 2009 (11:46 am)
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Replying to: larsb (Jan 08, 2009 11:44 am)

Actually Grbeck defined waste differently from you. Doesn't make him wrong, nor does your definition trump another valid one.
 
There's wasting gas and wasting time.
 
(and save the pot shots about which one we're doing in here. )

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