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#122 of 1788
nope by larsb
Jan 08, 2009 (8:58 am)
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grbeck says, "If exceeding the speed limit on a limited access highways were dangerous"
 
That's a completely unreasonable stance.
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Re: Phoenix area photo radar stats [grbeck] by larsb
Jan 08, 2009 (9:00 am)
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Replying to: grbeck (Jan 08, 2009 8:54 am)

grbeck says, "And, I'm reminding you again that not everyone wants to drive "slower;" driving at higher speeds is not a waste of fuel for most people"
 
Regardless if you "want to drive slower" that's the frickin LAW and you should not disobey it.
 
Driving at 75 versus 65 wastes fuel in EVERY SITUATION.
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bogus by larsb
Jan 08, 2009 (9:01 am)
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grbeck says, "If you set speed limits too low, and then use automated technology to raise revenue from said drivers, this is a hidden tax increase. "
 
It's not HIDDEN !!!! There are warning signs "Photo radar enforcement zone" !!!!!
 
A trooper in a secluded location with a radar gun, now THAT's hidden !!!
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slow down or pay the piper by larsb
Jan 08, 2009 (9:03 am)
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grbeck says, "No, the solution is to set speed limits at realistic levels, and ignore those who think that driving 80 mph on a limited access highway is somehow dangerous, and should therefore be "taxed.""
 
What are you, some kind of speed freak? You are acting as if 100 years of automobile usage has taught us that SPEED DOES NOT KILL when it's in reality just the opposite !!!
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Re: Photo Radar [andys120] by xrunner2
Jan 08, 2009 (9:27 am)
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Replying to: andys120 (Dec 16, 2008 10:54 am)

Formula for camera recording is "very, very" generous. 11+ for 55 and under, 10+ for 65 and over. What is so hard for drivers to follow this. Anyone getting ticket truly deserves it for being both stupid and inattentive. These types of drivers should really have their drivers licenses revoked after 2 or 3 photo tickets.
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Re: Photo Radar [xrunner2] by larsb
Jan 08, 2009 (9:36 am)
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Replying to: xrunner2 (Jan 08, 2009 9:27 am)

xrunner2 says, "Anyone getting ticket truly deserves it for being both stupid and inattentive."
 
Amen Bro !!
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Re: nope [larsb] by grbeck
Jan 08, 2009 (9:53 am)
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Replying to: larsb (Jan 08, 2009 8:58 am)

larsb: That's a completely unreasonable stance.
 
And yet even the "research" you linked to supports it.
 
I would suggest that you take the time to check the latest figures for fatalities per 100 million miles driven in the U.S. Given that it is at a record low, and that people are driving faster than ever on limited access highways, the facts suggest that exceeding the speed limit on limited access highways is not dangerous, and traffic safety efforts are better aimed elsewhere.
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Re: Phoenix area photo radar stats [larsb] by grbeck
Jan 08, 2009 (10:00 am)
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Replying to: larsb (Jan 08, 2009 9:00 am)

larsb: Regardless if you "want to drive slower" that's the frickin LAW and you should not disobey it.
 
Prohibition and the Fugitive Slave Act of 1850 were the law, too. You'll have to come up with a better argument than that one to convince more sophisticated, better informed drivers of your position. You aren't going to convince anyone who has actually thought about this issue beyond the "speeding is bad, duh!" mentality.
  
larsb: Driving at 75 versus 65 wastes fuel in EVERY SITUATION.
 
Nonsense. I waste fuel if I pour it on the ground after buying it. If I've decided that I'd rather enjoy the safety, convenience and pleasure that come with driving faster on a limited access highway, that is not "wasting" fuel. That's called deciding that it's worth it to use the extra fuel to go faster.
 
If you want to boost your credibility in this discussion, I'd suggest you start by learning the difference between your opinion and fact. Here's lesson one - it's your opinion that driving faster always wastes fuel. Not everyone shares this opinion, and it doesn't make them wrong.
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Re: bogus [larsb] by grbeck
Jan 08, 2009 (10:04 am)
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Replying to: larsb (Jan 08, 2009 9:01 am)

larsb: It's not HIDDEN !!!! There are warning signs "Photo radar enforcement zone" !!!!!
  
A trooper in a secluded location with a radar gun, now THAT's hidden !!!

 
I said that the tax increase would be hidden, NOT the photo radar. Reading comprehension can be your friend...
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you're about to irritate me....... by larsb
Jan 08, 2009 (10:11 am)
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grbeck says, "If you want to boost your credibility in this discussion, I'd suggest you start by learning the difference between your opinion and fact. Here's lesson one - it's your opinion that driving faster always wastes fuel. Not everyone shares this opinion, and it doesn't make them wrong. "
 
So far, you are the only person here doubting my cred, which if you knew me would be ridiculous to doubt. I laugh loudly at your doubt of my cred.
 
Driving faster wastes fuel, and it's NOT an opinion young man. Don't irritate me to the point where I have to start spouting statistics. I've got better beans to re-fry.
 
Don't say anything else about it. You are flat wrong - couldn't be more wrong.
 
( I'm not going to challenge your "cred" because young guys like you are allowed to be wrong now and again. It's a learning process for you. )

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