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2010 Ford Taurus

274 messages,  Last post on Nov 26, 2009 at 7:07 PM

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Re: weight and SHO [mikemartin] by akirby
Sep 22, 2009 (4:48 am)
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Replying to: mikemartin (Sep 21, 2009 10:39 pm)

The E350 only has 268 hp - why are you comparing it to a 365 hp Taurus SHO? The 263 HP Taurus starts at $27K and is still at least $10K cheaper than the E350 nicely equipped.
 
For a true comparison you need to select the E550 4matic (AWD) and 382 hp. It STARTS at $60K.
 
And I wouldn't be surprised if the Taurus was bigger than the E class to boot.
 
Try comparing apples to apples next time.
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taurus reception. by pod
Sep 22, 2009 (8:15 am)
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This is an enthusiasts magazine and the audience may be quite different than the standard car buyer. The nonSHO tauruses are pretty much a known item, carrying over most of the 2009 basics. The SHO is a totally new breed. I wonder how many people will hold back the first year to see the track record (resale value wise and repair wise) especially given the economy. The old saw about not buying a car in its first year of existence might see a slow start and then a gradual acceptance as the performance and reliability data come in. Granted it will take more than a year to set resale values. Hopefully there will be a significant change in the way tauruses have depreciated in the past. On the other hand, enthusiasts are willing to take the gamble given the very newness of this new powerful machine.
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Re: weight and SHO [akirby] by dodgeman07
Sep 22, 2009 (11:03 pm)
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Replying to: akirby (Sep 22, 2009 4:48 am)

NASCAR Mike was making light of the fact that $40K is a lot of money for most American sedan buyers. The comparison was not a direct one.
 
Ford has a winner with the new Taurus but it is priced too high. Most nicely equipped offerings are $32K-$33K or about 10% above where they should be.
 
We all know that someone who plunks down $32K today for a well equipped SEL will have a $22K car 6 months from now. The Asian and European makes will depreciate half that much in the same timeframe.
 
I may be interested in a $19K 2010 Taurus with 10,000 miles on it next fall though.
  They'll be plenty around for under $20K soon.
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Re: weight and SHO [dodgeman07] by akirby
Sep 23, 2009 (5:37 am)
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Replying to: dodgeman07 (Sep 22, 2009 11:03 pm)

The new Taurus is a desirable car that's not being overproduced and isn't being dumped into rental fleets. You can't predict depreciation based on past vehicles.
 
People who say the new Taurus is overpriced simply have no idea how much a new car costs or what the competition offers. The new Taurus isn't a bargain, but go compare it to imports of similar SIZE and features - it's priced competitively.
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Re: weight and SHO [akirby] by thegraduate
Sep 23, 2009 (6:46 am)
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Replying to: akirby (Sep 23, 2009 5:37 am)

I agree on price. I spec'd out an Avalon XL with cloth and little 16" wheels. It was more expensive sticker wise a paddle-shift Taurus SEL with leather, Sync, and a popular option package. Wasn't rolling on funny looking tiny wheels either.
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Re: weight and SHO [thegraduate] by akirby
Sep 23, 2009 (7:19 am)
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Replying to: thegraduate (Sep 23, 2009 6:46 am)

Exactly. I think some people just like to complain or simply haven't priced the competition lately.
 
Or they want to buy one and can't.
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Re: weight and SHO [akirby] by dodgeman07
Sep 23, 2009 (7:53 am)
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Replying to: akirby (Sep 23, 2009 7:19 am)

Right akirby - we have no idea how much a car costs.
 
A used 2010 Toyota Avalon will be worth $27K next year and the comparable Ford Taurus will be worth $19K.
 
Facts are facts. Your opinion that past depreciation doesn't predict future depreciation is what Detroit has been praying for for 25 years. It hasn't helped yet.
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Re: weight and SHO [dodgeman07] by ronsmith38
Sep 23, 2009 (8:07 am)
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Replying to: dodgeman07 (Sep 23, 2009 7:53 am)

A used 2010 Toyota Avalon will be worth $27K next year and the comparable Ford Taurus will be worth $19K
May be true, but not many of us buy a car one year and get rid of it the next. For those of us who keep a car for eight or ten years the depreciation is of little concern.
In fact I pay a property tax annually on the value of my vehicles. So, in this case, faster depreciation may be a plus.
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Re: weight and SHO [dodgeman07] by akirby
Sep 23, 2009 (8:11 am)
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Replying to: dodgeman07 (Sep 23, 2009 7:53 am)

The point you're totally missing (on purpose?) is that Ford has changed the things that caused poor resale value in the past. Reliability is no longer an issue. They're no longer overproducing and putting huge rebates on the hood of new cars or dumping cars into rental fleets.
 
I don't know what the resale value will be on a 2010 Taurus - and neither do you. We'll just have to wait and see.
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Re: weight and SHO [akirby] by dodgeman07
Sep 23, 2009 (8:33 am)
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Replying to: akirby (Sep 23, 2009 8:11 am)

I won't argue with you on re-sale value. Of course for people who keep their cars 10 years, re-sale value is no concern.
 
Ford put a decent body on and interior in the 2010 Taurus. Everything "under the skin" is the same as 2009. Used 2009 Ford Taurus' with 15,000 miles on the clock are available for half of sticker price today. I'm glad I didn't buy one for $34K last year when I can get one today for $17K.
 
I've taken a bath on used Ford's I've traded in. Used Honda's were a much better story.

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