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Replying to: british_rover (Oct 28, 2009 7:05 am) Graduate: I disagree about the blind spot. The correct positioning of the side mirrors should show none of your car in the side mirror when your head is vertical. A tilt to the right should then show the slightest bit of the car and a tilt to the left likewise. This eliminates the blind spot and also prevents the lights of trailing vehicles from adding to the eye load when in the neutral position. It is not a shoulder turn (that's why the mirrors are there); it is a head tilt. A shoulder turn helps confirm the mirrors info but doesn't involve the mirrors and when set this way is unnecessary (I do it from instinct and habit). What does the BLIS system do in stop and go traffic? It just seems unnecessary to me and if it is integrated into a greater safety logic algorithm it may be a disaster if (in a few years) there is a wandering ground or some wire pinched outside the harness. I agree that many of the points are simply a matter of taste and subjective. I want the lightest simplest car c/w safety and economy. I do also disagree about the fog lights. Except when crawling slowly along an unlit country road (as you describe) they shed no useful light. At twenty mph you are outrunning them. I did engage in a long discussion about this here in the edmunds forums (probably under lights or accessories) more than a year ago and most agreed. Indeed some argued they are for other cars to see you better in the fog--others argued that special colored lights were optimal. Most agreed that they were simply sporty decorations under most driving conditions. In most states it is against the law to have them on unless it is raining or foggy. Thank you gentlemen for the opportunity to engage in a discussion about these points. I am a minimalist and did look at the Graduate's little red car with some longing....not enough...but still. |
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Replying to: pod (Oct 28, 2009 4:07 pm)  ... We can agree to disagree about BLIS. I feel it has merit if only for two long-shot reasons: 1.) I'm 6'5", and can't adjust my mirrors perfectly in all cars. I have no problem in most, but in my '96 Accord, I reach the edge of the adjustment level just before I have them right. I still see a bit of car. 2.) Vehicles in the mirror aren't necessarily moving at your speed. I've looked in my mirrors, saw nothing, only to lookover my shoulder and prepare to merge when I see a motorcycle in my blind spot. Apparently, he was managing to stay out of view as I adjusted myself to check whether or not the lane was clear. It's only been one instance, but while it rattled me, I bet he or she on the bike needed new underwear! I agree about the foglamps in general, but they do have their place for a select few. I would want to pay for them here in Birmingham. Thanks for some great talking points here! TG |
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Replying to: gregg_vw (Oct 26, 2009 4:47 am) |
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Replying to: thegraduate (Oct 28, 2009 4:22 pm) Exactly - using your mirrors (properly adjusted) and glancing over your shoulder means you have no blind spot. I think BLIS is fine as an added safety measure - for those times when you forget to glance over your shoulder or you don't like having your mirrors adjusted that way. But I do not see it as a necessity or a huge safety improvement.
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Replying to: akirby (Oct 29, 2009 5:27 am) |
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Replying to: pod (Oct 28, 2009 4:07 pm) There is a button on the dash to turn it off if you are getting a lot of false negatives in stop and go bumper to bumper traffic. It will pick up motorcycles and it does pick up a car a couple of car lengths before it enters your blind spot. With the size of the pillars in modern cars and the currently in style coupe like rear profile the back C pillar in a sedan can be quite large. One of the worst offenders of this is the new Lexus IS models. Go drive one of those and check out the enormous blind spot. Just backing one up is difficult with the huge rear pillars and enormous bangle butt trunk. I don't think Lexus offers a BLISS type system on that car but they do offer a backup camera and you need one. |
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Replying to: akirby (Oct 29, 2009 5:27 am) |
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We have a 2010 Taurus SEL which we like very much. However, I wonder if anyone else has a negative opinion about the feel of the brake pedal: Mushy. Also, I notice that the rear wheels have more brake dust than the fronts. This reminds me of the situation with our Freestyle and wonder if we are going to have the same problems with the rear brakes.
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| The latest Consumer Reports put a don't recommend on the Lincoln MKS which is made in the Taurus plant. I wonder if that is a bad omen? I know its platform is based on a Volvo and those cars seem to have declined in quality over the past decade. The Taurus is newer than the MKS so I hope they fixed whatever issues led to the CR knock because it seems like a nice car. | |
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Replying to: berri (Nov 07, 2009 2:07 pm) A 1999 or 2000 S80 or XC70 could be a very troublesome scary car. A 2005 or 2006 S80 or XC70 was usually fine. A 2007 of either one are great cars. The 2010s and up are fantastic too. |
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