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2010 Ford Taurus

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Re: SIlly [mikemartin] by thegraduate
Oct 11, 2009 (8:51 pm)
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Replying to: mikemartin (Oct 11, 2009 8:29 pm)

To have a 350+ horsepower vehicle that has no considerable mileage drop from its 263 horse counterpart is nothing to sneeze at, old technology or not.
 
And no, I do not own, or plan to own in the near future, a Ford, lest I be accused of being biased or even working for them. I drive an import 30+ mpg 4-cylinder.
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Re: SIlly [mikemartin] by akirby
Oct 12, 2009 (5:05 am)
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Replying to: mikemartin (Oct 11, 2009 8:29 pm)

It's the combination of twin turbos with Direct Injection and the ability to run on regular and get good fuel economy. If you check the reviews of the MKT Ecoboost vs. the import V8s - it had more power, better driveability AND better fuel economy.
 
The game changer will be the 2.0L Ecoboost that will give 4 cylinder fuel economy with V6 power. It will debut next year in the new Explorer.
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Re: SIlly [mikemartin] by british_rover
Oct 12, 2009 (1:24 pm)
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Replying to: mikemartin (Oct 11, 2009 8:29 pm)

Name a twin turbo V6 from the 80s in a front wheel drive car. Oh and name one that has direct injection too. Most Turbo V6s from the 80s or even early 90s were single turbo and were rear wheel drive. I think even the Turbo 911 from the 80s was single turbo.
 
I can't think of any off the top of my head.
 
The combination of the technologies in the kind of volume Ford will pump out is what has changed.
 
Audi has had direct injection Turbo engines for a while but not many of them were twin turbo, none of them ran on regular gas and none of them were made in the massive Volume ford is going to be making ecoboost engines in.
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Re: SIlly [british_rover] by mikemartin
Oct 18, 2009 (8:20 pm)
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Replying to: british_rover (Oct 12, 2009 1:24 pm)

Why would anyone want a twin turbo anything in a FRONT WHEEL DRIVE, bloated sedan?
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Re: SIlly [mikemartin] by poodog13
Oct 19, 2009 (7:27 am)
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Replying to: mikemartin (Oct 18, 2009 8:20 pm)

Not defending the weight of the Taurus, but I hate when people blast FWD. I live in a very hilly area with moderate snowfall, and a RWD vehicle is not an option for me. I would not even be able to get off my own street on some days in RWD, even with snow tires.
 
I understand that RWD is an superior setup in terms of overall performance, but this is mostly true only under conditions of extreme acceleration (off the line or turning while accelerating). Given that this type of driving is typically ill-advised in normal traffic conditions, I'll take the trade-off in performance to be able to get around reliably in the winter.
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Re: SIlly [mikemartin] by akirby
Oct 19, 2009 (7:34 am)
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Replying to: mikemartin (Oct 18, 2009 8:20 pm)

Why would anyone want a twin turbo anything in a FRONT WHEEL DRIVE, bloated sedan?
 
I don't know because the ecoboost Taurus is AWD, not FWD and it can send 100% of the torque to the rear wheels if necessary.
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Re: SIlly [mikemartin] by british_rover
Oct 19, 2009 (7:49 am)
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Replying to: mikemartin (Oct 18, 2009 8:20 pm)

Way to side step the question. First off if the AWD system is anything like the latest Haladex units in Volvos it can send a good bit of its power to the rear axle. Not enough to get tail happy obviously but enough to not fell like it is FWD biased.
 
To answer your question though it is for packaging and economic reasons. You could never build a business case for the SHO unless it was based on the regular Taurus platform.
 
You said twin turbo V6s have been around since the late 80s I said name one. You failed.
 
Off the top of my head the Maserati Bi-Turbo was around in the 80s and everything else was single turbo.
 
You had plenty of turbo SAABs but again single turbo only and 4 cylinders. The 911 was single turbo until the mid 90s.
 
The first somewhat mass market Twin Turbo V6 I can think of was the Dodge Stealth RT Turbo/Mitsubishi 3000GT VR-4. They first came out in 1990 and got about 290 hp out of a 3.0 liter twin turbo V6 and AWD. They got that engine up to 320 hp by 1997. Power and features stayed the same till the model was discontinued around 2001. It was a heavy beast though with nearly 3,800 lbs of curb weight. That turns out to be about 400 lbs lighter then a SHO Taurus that has more power, granted out of a somewhat larger engine, can seat four or five comfortably and gets better mileage. Mileage on the 3000GT is 16/22 according to the new test and the SHO is 17/25.
 
3000GT Taurus SHO
 
As for it being bloated compared to other sedans with similar equipment and features it weighs about the same.
 
2010 SHO Vs. A6 3.2 A6 4.2 and M45X
 
Those cars are all smaller by seven to ten inches, all have less horse power and only one gets better mileage. They all weigh within 200 lbs of a SHO.
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Text Messaging by southman_70
Oct 24, 2009 (8:40 am)
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No one have mention the unique feature in the 2010 Taurus atleast with the nav system been able to read out your text messages when paired with certain phones. I have a motorola Z9 and I was able to have it read and reply to my messages. A good thing when you are alone but if you have company better to turn it off .
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Re: Text Messaging [southman_70] by akirby
Oct 24, 2009 (9:29 am)
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Replying to: southman_70 (Oct 24, 2009 8:40 am)

That feature has been available for several years with Sync in all Sync equipped vehicles (even the Focus). You just need the right type of phone.
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Re: Text Messaging [akirby] by southman_70
Oct 24, 2009 (10:17 am)
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Replying to: akirby (Oct 24, 2009 9:29 am)

well that tells you I have not paid any attention to any Sync vehicles until I got the SHO, my lexus did not have that feature.

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