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2010 Ford Taurus

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Re: 2010 Taurus [alman08] by lilengineerboy
Oct 03, 2009 (4:41 am)
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Replying to: alman08 (Oct 02, 2009 9:48 pm)

I made up my mind about getting a black or white limited next year, but now I have decided to wait to see the 2011 Genesis with the mild upgrade first.
 
The Genni is RWD where as the Taurus is FWD or AWD. I don't know if there is an AWD being introduced in '11 for the Genesis. I also don't know if that matters to your situation. I have also heard complaints about the suspension on the Genesis, but I have a fair amount of seat time driving one (not mine) and I didn't notice anything bad about it myself. The car overall has a very different feel then the Taurus, but that isn't saying its good or bad, its just different. I am also surprised at how different the Taurus SEL feels compared to the SHO. They feel like two completely different cars, which IMHO, they should.
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What were the Sept sales numbers for the new Taurus? by freezed
Oct 03, 2009 (5:36 am)
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How well did the 2010 Taurus sell in Sept compared to its main competition? I've seen many new Maximas on the road, too many to count. I've only seen one, count em, one, 2010 Taurus on the road. And I'm on interstate 85 two hours every day of the work week.
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Re: What were the Sept sales numbers for the new Taurus? [freezed] by thegraduate
Oct 03, 2009 (6:41 am)
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Replying to: freezed (Oct 03, 2009 5:36 am)

The Maxima has been out longer than the Taurus
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Re: Same GM Guarantee [alman08] by gregg_vw
Oct 03, 2009 (6:55 am)
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Replying to: alman08 (Oct 02, 2009 9:42 pm)

Whether you choose to believe this or not, Ford has been making cars that people want. While I agree with many of your points, you are over-correcting here, sir. Ford did not get into the financial straits of the past few years, and lose so much market share since 2000 by only making cars people want. Nobody much wanted the Ford Five Hundred or 2008 Taurus, even if they were decent cars. Nobody much anymore wanted the Crown Victoria. Focus sales were tanking until gas prices increased. The Ranger has been fading away for many years to a point where sales have stabilized at a fraction of what they used to be. The Contour ended up a sales dud. The last T-bird attempt did not fly. The Explorer went from the top of the sales charts to the bottom. The Freestyle and Excursion were both big duds.
 
What is true is that Ford is now making cars people want. Not so much true for Mercury and Lincoln, however. Look at Sept sales for L-M...double digits lower than the awful sales last September. Many people are predicting Chrysler's demise and GM's demise, and it is possible they may go. But let's not forget that Ford is and has been for several years now leveraged to the hilt, and is still not making money. GM and Chrysler further damaged their images through bankruptcy, but they did dump a lot of debt in the process. Ford hopes to hold out until there is some black ink, and I hope they do as well. And as for blaming the situation on the UAW? What about the do-nothing, no-nothing, high pay-collecting board? What about upper management? There is enough blame to go around.
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Re: What were the Sept sales numbers for the new Taurus? [thegraduate] by freezed
Oct 03, 2009 (7:44 am)
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Replying to: thegraduate (Oct 03, 2009 6:41 am)

Agreed that the 2010 Maxima has been out longer, but I asked out Sept sales only.
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Re: 2010 Taurus [lilengineerboy] by alman08
Oct 03, 2009 (8:30 am)
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Replying to: lilengineerboy (Oct 03, 2009 4:41 am)

thanks for telling the diff between the SEL and SHO. Now I will have to consider testing both. I picked the Limited because I really don't need all that HP with the SHO but I prefer the look of the LTD over the SEL.
I also drove a Genesis and the ride did not bother me at all. Maybe I was just driving it like it's a sedan and not a sport car, if you know what I mean. The redesign has a new trunk lid, which I hope would fix the water leaking problem that the Genesis has.
RWD and FWD and AWD, all don't matter to me because as long as they have wheels and they drive, I'm ok with it.
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Re: Same GM Guarantee [gregg_vw] by alman08
Oct 03, 2009 (8:39 am)
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Replying to: gregg_vw (Oct 03, 2009 6:55 am)

again... think global. sheesh.
and yes, blame UAW.
high pay collecting board members? they didn't get there by accident.
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Re: 2010 Taurus [alman08] by lilengineerboy
Oct 03, 2009 (8:42 am)
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Replying to: alman08 (Oct 03, 2009 8:30 am)

thanks for telling the diff between the SEL and SHO. Now I will have to consider testing both. I picked the Limited because I really don't need all that HP with the SHO but I prefer the look of the LTD over the SEL.
 
I meant the LTD vs the SHO, sorry, I skipped a model in my nomenclature. I think they are expecting the entry level model to do a lot of fleet service where a full size vehicle is needed/preferred.
 
I also drove a Genesis and the ride did not bother me at all. Maybe I was just driving it like it's a sedan and not a sport car, if you know what I mean.
 
The sense I got is that the issue is that the suspension is a little too stiff and it made it feel jittery over certain types of roads. I tend to like a heavy dose of "sport" in my sedan so it didn't bother me at all (I didn't notice it, actually, and Michigan has some pretty poor roads).
 
RWD and FWD and AWD, all don't matter to me because as long as they have wheels and they drive, I'm ok with it.
 
Yeah I guess no matter what you need power going from the engine to some wheel.
 
I think both of these vehicles are very impressive. Its hard to believe that the company that gave us the Hyundai Excel can produce something like the Genesis, and its exciting to see that a North American company can still develop a design that is stylish with the quality it needs to compete in this environment.
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Re: 2010 Taurus [lilengineerboy] by lilengineerboy
Oct 03, 2009 (8:44 am)
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Replying to: lilengineerboy (Oct 03, 2009 8:42 am)

Oh, and check out the multi-contour seat option. It uses air bladders to provide lumbar support and I believe has a feature that helps circulation and eases fatigue while driving longer distances. I think BMW's 5 series, the Mercedes S-class, and the Volvo S80 have similar features.
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Re: 2010 Taurus [alman08] by bruneau1
Oct 03, 2009 (9:40 am)
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Replying to: alman08 (Oct 03, 2009 8:30 am)

I have driven the SEL, Limited and SHO. We bought a SEL because its ride and noise level are superior to the others, and was a better value. Of course, the Sho is in a different category for power and also has different steering. Some dealers have huge markups which I don't think will work.

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