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#183 of 493 Re: Same GM Guarantee [sandman_6472] by lilengineerboy

Oct 02, 2009 (6:59 pm)

Replying to: sandman_6472 (Oct 02, 2009 5:44 pm)
Why can't Ford have the same marketing campaign with their Taurus...and all their models...like GM...put your $ where your mouth is. That would show the general public how much Ford "believes" in their products. A bit suspicious as to why Ford hasn't jumped on this publicity stunt...leads me to believe the commitment to how far Ford products have come is all words...and I wouldn't spend my hard earned $ on their cars
 
Really? I thought it was when they didn't take any government bailout money to restructure themselves, for me that was a moderately sized tip off, or that they didn't go bankrupt.
 
Having owned Toyota's/Nissan's/Honda's/ Mazda's for many years, think that's where I'll keep my car $ in the near future.
 
So if you've made that decision already, how much is it worth for any other company to try to "win" you as a customer?
 
From what I observed, 85% were foreign cars & the rest was split between the big 3. One thing we all must have is a dependable car, no if's, and's or but's. So from my observations, the big 3 have a "long way" to go with the American public.
 
I know from your other postings in other forums that you know more about statistics than that. Ford has a market share in the mid-teens (higher in some segments, lower in others), and GM is about the same. Together they are about 30% of vehicles sold.
 
Folks might want to "buy American" but when they spend their $ on transportation, the foreign brands rule and will in the foreseeable future no matter what.
 
Everyone gets an opinion and a vote, and yours is no more or less valid than mine, but what does that have to do with the 2010 Ford Taurus?
 

So slam me all you want to but it is what it is. So all you American car makers, make your cars like the foreign brands do with the same reliability, price structure & fun to drive quotient and watch what happens
 
No slam, just trying to understand the motivation to put a rant about the auto industry in general in a a forum about a a car that has been very well received by every major media outlet, magazine, blog, and podcast from a company that took no government bailout, stayed solvent on its own, and has quality on par with its Japanese rivals based on multiple independent sources (CR, JDP, etc).
 
Did you actually drive the 2010 Taurus?

#184 of 493 Re: Same GM Guarantee [sandman_6472] by alman08

Oct 02, 2009 (10:42 pm)

Replying to: sandman_6472 (Oct 02, 2009 5:44 pm)
doing a random survey at a parking lot where you work doesn't give a good sampling for a valid statistic. perhaps it's one of the reason why this government fails because they hired people like you.
 
like another person said, Ford's sale outperform many import brands, what more do you need to know? also, many rental companies now-a-day are buying imports, so it's not like the good ol' days when domestic auto sales were counting on the purchase from rental car companies.
 
GM's guarantee program is a scammer, anyone with a decent brain could have told you that. Ford is already, in my opinion, doing what it can to earn back the trust of the American public, while it can't be succeeded overnight, the sales record is a good solid proof that it's slowly achieving its goal.
 
You and your "average person" mentality is an upgraded. Ford is making cars that people want. Actually, they HAVE BEEN making cars that people want, but it'd take a keener eye to see it. Well, since you're at that lower level, I will give you an example... when there was a huge demand of trucks, Ford made the F150 and it was the best selling trucks. When there was a huge demand for SUV, Ford made that best selling Explorer. Whether you choose to believe this or not, Ford has been making cars that people want. As far as liability is concern, it's fair to say that the Big 3 were below par for many years. And as far as pricing is concern, we can all blame it on the UAW.
 
One last thing... this is year 2009... it's not so much what the American public wants anymore in regard to automobiles... it's what the WORLD wants.

#185 of 493 2010 Taurus by alman08

Oct 02, 2009 (10:48 pm)

Saw a few of them on the road this week, I'd have to say, these are very decent looking cars. But here is the thing... I sat in one at a dealer this week and as much as the interior was improved, I think the Hyundai Genesis is still a better value. Just my opinion.
I made up my mind about getting a black or white limited next year, but now I have decided to wait to see the 2011 Genesis with the mild upgrade first.

#186 of 493 Re: 2010 Taurus [alman08] by lilengineerboy

Oct 03, 2009 (5:41 am)

Replying to: alman08 (Oct 02, 2009 10:48 pm)
I made up my mind about getting a black or white limited next year, but now I have decided to wait to see the 2011 Genesis with the mild upgrade first.
 
The Genni is RWD where as the Taurus is FWD or AWD. I don't know if there is an AWD being introduced in '11 for the Genesis. I also don't know if that matters to your situation. I have also heard complaints about the suspension on the Genesis, but I have a fair amount of seat time driving one (not mine) and I didn't notice anything bad about it myself. The car overall has a very different feel then the Taurus, but that isn't saying its good or bad, its just different. I am also surprised at how different the Taurus SEL feels compared to the SHO. They feel like two completely different cars, which IMHO, they should.

#187 of 493 What were the Sept sales numbers for the new Taurus? by freezed

Oct 03, 2009 (6:36 am)

How well did the 2010 Taurus sell in Sept compared to its main competition? I've seen many new Maximas on the road, too many to count. I've only seen one, count em, one, 2010 Taurus on the road. And I'm on interstate 85 two hours every day of the work week.

#188 of 493 Re: What were the Sept sales numbers for the new Taurus? [freezed] by thegraduate

Oct 03, 2009 (7:41 am)

Replying to: freezed (Oct 03, 2009 6:36 am)
The Maxima has been out longer than the Taurus

#189 of 493 Re: Same GM Guarantee [alman08] by gregg_vw

Oct 03, 2009 (7:55 am)

Replying to: alman08 (Oct 02, 2009 10:42 pm)
Whether you choose to believe this or not, Ford has been making cars that people want. While I agree with many of your points, you are over-correcting here, sir. Ford did not get into the financial straits of the past few years, and lose so much market share since 2000 by only making cars people want. Nobody much wanted the Ford Five Hundred or 2008 Taurus, even if they were decent cars. Nobody much anymore wanted the Crown Victoria. Focus sales were tanking until gas prices increased. The Ranger has been fading away for many years to a point where sales have stabilized at a fraction of what they used to be. The Contour ended up a sales dud. The last T-bird attempt did not fly. The Explorer went from the top of the sales charts to the bottom. The Freestyle and Excursion were both big duds.
 
What is true is that Ford is now making cars people want. Not so much true for Mercury and Lincoln, however. Look at Sept sales for L-M...double digits lower than the awful sales last September. Many people are predicting Chrysler's demise and GM's demise, and it is possible they may go. But let's not forget that Ford is and has been for several years now leveraged to the hilt, and is still not making money. GM and Chrysler further damaged their images through bankruptcy, but they did dump a lot of debt in the process. Ford hopes to hold out until there is some black ink, and I hope they do as well. And as for blaming the situation on the UAW? What about the do-nothing, no-nothing, high pay-collecting board? What about upper management? There is enough blame to go around.

#190 of 493 Re: What were the Sept sales numbers for the new Taurus? [thegraduate] by freezed

Oct 03, 2009 (8:44 am)

Replying to: thegraduate (Oct 03, 2009 7:41 am)
Agreed that the 2010 Maxima has been out longer, but I asked out Sept sales only.

#191 of 493 Re: 2010 Taurus [lilengineerboy] by alman08

Oct 03, 2009 (9:30 am)

Replying to: lilengineerboy (Oct 03, 2009 5:41 am)
thanks for telling the diff between the SEL and SHO. Now I will have to consider testing both. I picked the Limited because I really don't need all that HP with the SHO but I prefer the look of the LTD over the SEL.
I also drove a Genesis and the ride did not bother me at all. Maybe I was just driving it like it's a sedan and not a sport car, if you know what I mean. The redesign has a new trunk lid, which I hope would fix the water leaking problem that the Genesis has.
RWD and FWD and AWD, all don't matter to me because as long as they have wheels and they drive, I'm ok with it.

#192 of 493 Re: Same GM Guarantee [gregg_vw] by alman08

Oct 03, 2009 (9:39 am)

Replying to: gregg_vw (Oct 03, 2009 7:55 am)
again... think global. sheesh.
and yes, blame UAW.
high pay collecting board members? they didn't get there by accident.

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