Article Comments - 2009 Nissan 370Z vs. 2008 BMW 135i

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Comparison Test: 2009 Nissan 370Z vs. 2008 BMW 135i - The BMW 135i wasn't napping, though. On its second and fifth braking attempts, the Bavarian repeated silent and controlled stops from 60 mph of 108 feet. The Z-car has an advantage here in tire choice, but we also found that the BMW brake system makes it a little easier to jump on the pedal and still get response that is more linear and easier to modulate. (more)

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#31 of 39 Re: The 370Z IS better than the 1-series [4maticbenz] by rodsterinfl Jun 03, 2009 (4:10 pm)
Replying to: 4maticbenz (Feb 07, 2009 3:10 pm) I would disagree with you 4maticbenz. I spent months comparing cars before buying 2 weeks ago. I repeatedly drove the 128, 328, 135 and 335 and compared them to a G37 coupe and sedan, Audi A4, and the Acura TL. I took way longer than normal (Dec-May) to decide but ended up with the G37 sedan. Although it is not a Z it has room and inherits a great deal of the performance with poise. The 335 is nice but you are talking $10K more than a G at least and the 1 series is not the same car as the 3 at all. It is nice but, uh, not quite. The 128 by the way does not have the same steering and the 135 is about $5K more than the G. I fully intended to come home with a BMW but the G clearly has more going for it and won me over. Needless to say the BMW's on forums seem to have some issues with heat, valve ticking requiring "bleeding" and of course the legendary repair need. Thank goodness for the 4 year coverage. The G is supposed to be highly reliable, more features and well, much cheaper price tag. It is VERY hard to justify BMW $premiums$ as Japan has finally caught up with Germany! Replies to this message: roadburner (Jun 03, 2009 8:04 pm) gardencar1 (Jun 10, 2009 7:30 pm) 4maticbenz (Jun 11, 2009 2:33 pm) 4maticbenz (Jun 11, 2009 2:30 pm) roadburner (Jun 12, 2009 8:02 am)
#32 of 39 Re: The 370Z IS better than the 1-series [rodsterinfl] by roadburner Jun 03, 2009 (8:04 pm)
Replying to: rodsterinfl (Jun 03, 2009 4:10 pm) and of course the legendary repair need. Right. And you base that sweeping generalization on what? How many BMWs you've owned? Let me guess; somewhere between zero and none. Never mind; just keep bleating that urban legend if it makes you feel better about your purchase. But here's a fact: My 2007 Mazdaspeed 3 costs more to run than my 1995 3 Series and my 2004 X3 combined... Replies to this message: gardencar1 (Jun 10, 2009 7:30 pm) 4maticbenz (Jun 11, 2009 2:33 pm)
#33 of 39 Re: The 370Z IS better than the 1-series [roadburner] by gardencar1 Jun 10, 2009 (7:30 pm)
Replying to: roadburner (Jun 03, 2009 8:04 pm) I share roadburner's indignation at rodsterinfl's comments. It is always strange when people use dollars as one of the factors for determining which car is "better." If the Infiniti and the BMW where priced identically, which would you buy? Right...... Money should not be used to determine the better car, maybe what's better for your budget. I have owned two Bimmers and two Lexus ( or Lexi ). Although the Lexus brand may have an edge on reliability, the Bimmers were less expensive to repair and maintain, especially because of the free scheduled maintenance. And no, the Japanese have not caught up to the Germans in the area of performance, not to BMW and probably not to Porsche! Replies to this message: 4maticbenz (Jun 11, 2009 2:33 pm)
#34 of 39 Re: The 370Z IS better than the 1-series [rodsterinfl] by 4maticbenz Jun 11, 2009 (2:30 pm)
Replying to: rodsterinfl (Jun 03, 2009 4:10 pm) well, good choice. The G37 is probably the more sensible buy. And you're right; it is hard to justify a 3-series over a G37. The 335i does perform better but not worth the extra 5k. I still prefer the 335i, though. Even if it isnt the better value, i still think it is ther better overall car. And Japan may have caught up with germany in regards to entry-level models, but when it comes to high performance (///M, ////AMG, RS,etc.) Japan is far from germany, my friend. And also i have to disagree with you on the fact that BMWs are reknown for bad reliability. Ive owned Bimmers and benz's for years and i have had nothing but minor inconviniences with my cars (burnt out bulbs, window regulators, etc.) never anything major or troubling. German automotive unreliability is a myth Replies to this message: roadburner (Jun 12, 2009 8:02 am)
#35 of 39 Re: The 370Z IS better than the 1-series [gardencar1] by 4maticbenz Jun 11, 2009 (2:33 pm)
Replying to: gardencar1 (Jun 10, 2009 7:30 pm) Could not agree more!
#36 of 39 Re: The 370Z IS better than the 1-series [4maticbenz] by roadburner Jun 12, 2009 (8:02 am)
Replying to: 4maticbenz (Jun 11, 2009 2:30 pm) German automotive unreliability is a myth. True, but it helps those poor unfortunates with a bad case of BMW envy justify buying something else- automotive sour grapes, if you will...
#37 of 39 Re: [gardencar1] by perunest Jun 16, 2009 (4:31 am)
Replying to: gardencar1 (Apr 21, 2009 4:38 pm) Z4? How did the BMW Z4 get into the last few discussions? This is supposed to be a BMW 135 - Nizzan 370Z discussion. Are some people confused as to the difference between a 370Z and a Z4?
#38 of 39 370Z Car by perfecto2 Jun 26, 2009 (9:17 am)
I purchased a new 2009 Nissan 370Z on February 26, 2009. When I purchased the car, it was Winter time in Georgia. The first thing I noticed, while test driving the 370Z, was an OIL TEMPERATURE GUAGE mounted in the number one pod on the car's dash. I asked the General Manager at Cronic Nissan if there had been any reports, from owners, regarding the 370Z CAR's ENGINE TEMPERATURE rising above the 280 degrees mark? I was told that there had been no reports pertaining to the Car's ENGINE TEMPERATURE rising to 280 degrees. Well, I can tell you that my NEW NISSAN 370Z CAR can't be driven at speeds over 70 MPH, for a long period of time, two (2) hours or more, when the AMBIENT is above 95 degrees, without the car's ENGINE TEMPERATURE RISING TO 280 DEGREES! I've contacted NISSAN's CONSUMER AFFAIRS on NUMEROUS occasions, regarding the 370Z CAR's HIGH OIL TEMPERATURE. I advised NISSAN that I only have 520 miles on my 370Z Car, due to the Car's ENGINE OIL TEMPERATURE GUAGE indicating a OIL TEMPERATUR of over 250 degrees, when I drive the car approximately seven (7) miles, at an average speed of 45 MPH, and at an average of 3000 RPM'S. NISSAN knows the 370Z car needs an ENGINE OIL COOLER, because they now have an ENGINE OIL COOLER available for the CAR OWNER to purchase, and be installed by a NISSAN Dealer. However, NISSAN hasn't done a RECALL on the CAR. NISSAN wants the 370Z CAR OWNER to purchase the OIL COOLER, and have it installed by an authorized NISSAN DEALERSHIP, in order to maintain your NISSAN WARANY. All 370Z CAR OWNERS MUST CONTACT NISSAN's CONSUMER AFFAIRS AND REGISTER A COMPLAINT ABOUT THE 370Z's ABILITY TO OPERATE IN TEMPERATURES ABOVE 95F DEGREES, WITHOUT THE ENGINE's OIL TEMPERATURE RISING TO THE 280 DEGREE MARK. If NISSAN receives enough complaints, they might do a RECALL on the 370Z.
#39 of 39 370Z oil temp problems???? by rmhockman Oct 04, 2009 (7:21 am)
After reading some of the comments regarding engine overheating it really makes one wonder how some of these people treat their cars.(like drive the car approximately seven (7) miles, at an average speed of 45 MPH, and at an average of 3000 RPM'S.???) Wonder what gear would that be at that speed and RPM??? Or in excess of 70 mph for periods of two or more hours in 90+ degree weather, what state would that be in as it most likely exceeds all legal speed limits in the eastern US. There seems to be an over emphasis on the heating problem by a few extremists and it certainly doesn't alarm me since I have the 6 speed touring version (approx.7000 miles now) and have never seen temperatures rise above 220 or 230 on long Pennsylvania mountain grades in 80+ degree weather, on high speed interstate drives (70 or under) the oil temperature guage generally runs around 200 or so????? I've said my piece, thank you. R M Hockman Du Bois PA.