Article Comments - 2009 Nissan 370Z vs. 2008 BMW 135i

39 messages, Last post on Oct 04, 2009 at 7:21 AM

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Comparison Test: 2009 Nissan 370Z vs. 2008 BMW 135i - The BMW 135i wasn't napping, though. On its second and fifth braking attempts, the Bavarian repeated silent and controlled stops from 60 mph of 108 feet. The Z-car has an advantage here in tire choice, but we also found that the BMW brake system makes it a little easier to jump on the pedal and still get response that is more linear and easier to modulate. (more)

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#7 of 39 Nice by sjaieve Dec 17, 2008 (12:13 pm)
Why am I not surprised. Edmunds thinks outside the box and I have to respect them for this. You read other car magazines, and they just jump to conclude one car is better even thought the price premium is not justified by the difference in performance. The new Z has it all, the looks, powerful & fuel efficient V6, and of course as a Japanese make its loaded with tech. The bonus is the price you have to pay for it. I drive an 08 G35, but if I were ever looking for a coupe, I would not get the G coupe, the Z appears better to me. I also agree that the 135i looks are not as great as the 335i coupe, but again, the price premium on the 335i coupe over the Z or G37 coupe is not justified either. Replies to this message: habitat1 (Dec 27, 2008 9:54 am) roadburner (Dec 29, 2008 8:30 pm) habitat1 (Dec 30, 2008 8:51 am)
#8 of 39 Re: Nice [sjaieve] by habitat1 Dec 27, 2008 (9:54 am)
Replying to: sjaieve (Dec 17, 2008 12:13 pm) I drive an 08 G35, but if I were ever looking for a coupe, I would not get the G coupe, the Z appears better to me. And I think you are of the demographic / mindset that Nissan needs to attract. The probelm, in my opinion, is that they market the G37 as a coupe and the 350/370Z as sports cars. As a "coupe" the bloated curb weights of the Z cars would not be that much of an issue. But if you ever spend 10 minutes in a real sports car, whether its a Porsche Cayman on one side or a Honda S2000 on the other, the obesity of the 350Z is as apparant as a musk ox sitting in the passenger seat. Road tests aside, the difference driving dynamics is dramatic. The old Datsun 240Z was an impressive sports car in its day, but everything in the past 2+ decades have been 2 seater coupes, grand tourers or something other than sports cars. And Nissan's weakling attempt to trim down that excessive weight on the 370Z, only to pump it back up with techno-goodies (or so they use as an excuse) shows where their heads are. Funny, Porsche doesn't need to add 600 lbs to the Cayman to include power everything, navigation, bluetooth and do-dads out the wazoo. But they know their real mission. I suspect that a 370Z "coupe" will sell as good or better than a serious 2,800 lb 370Z "sports car" would have - especially in today's market. So maybe this isn't a mistake in business judgement for Nissan. But, frankly, when a 370Z is an ox-load closer to a G37 than a Cayman or S2000 in weight, it sure doesn't smell like anything that came from the old 240Z heritage. Hell, it's still got a large mule deer in the passenger seat compared to my 1995 Maxima. Note: I haven't yet driven the 370Z - or G37 coupe for that matter. So, true to my own standards - take everything I say with a grain of salt. On the other hand, I did get an A in college phyics, so my weight analysis ought to be close. Replies to this message: roadburner (Dec 29, 2008 8:30 pm) habitat1 (Dec 30, 2008 8:51 am)
#9 of 39 Re: Nice [habitat1] by roadburner Dec 29, 2008 (8:30 pm)
Replying to: habitat1 (Dec 27, 2008 9:54 am) I had a 1969 Datsun Fairlady: I wish Nissan still built cars so light and tossable... Replies to this message: habitat1 (Dec 30, 2008 8:51 am)
#10 of 39 Sport package by neokaitiger Dec 30, 2008 (12:30 am)
I drive an 08' 135i, and I agree with a lot of points in this review...but realize that these cars are extremely different. I remember driving a 350Z back in 06 and I wasn't really a fan. It seemed way too harsh for the amount of performance you actually got out of it. I didn't understand why a car that was meant to be driven on the street had to be so uncomfortable and aggressive. I can imagine the new Z isn't much different, as it is meant to be a sports car. On another note, in the review it says that there is no "sport" package on the 135i. This is false...my car has this as do lots of 135i on the road. They add better seats, M interior parts and stiffer suspension as well as better tires and larger wheels.
#11 of 39 Re: Nice [roadburner] by habitat1 Dec 30, 2008 (8:51 am)
Replying to: roadburner (Dec 29, 2008 8:30 pm) Those were the days..... It's not that I don't appreciate many of the technological and engineering improvements that have come along since, but why the hell did they have to throw out the "passion" and underlying philosophy and fun of a sports car in the process. The Datsun 2000 (1967+ Fairlady) that a buddy of mine had in college was a true sports car. From Wikopedia: The Datsun 2000 was lauded as a bargain sportscar. The main reason for its production was for racing to build the Datsun image. It was raced by John Morton, Paul Newman and others. Its sticker price was lowest in its class, but it won its class in C Production (Mikuni-Solex carburetors) and D-Production (Hitachi-SU carburetors), in SCCA racing on a consistent basis even after production stopped. A well-tuned stock Datsun 2000 was capable of cruising at 120 mph (193 km/h) and capable of making better than 30 mpg (7.8 L/100 km)and red-lined at exactly 7000 rpm and 140 mph in 4th gear with a 5 speed. It was replaced with the more sedate, stylish, and popular Z series. That college buddy of mine did pretty well for himself and a few years ago, his wife found a nicely restored Datsun 2000 that she bought for him as an anniversary gift. From spring through fall, chances are 80% that you will see him driving it instead of his SL600. And 100% that he will be wearing a bigger smile. Congratulations on having experienced a classic. I should have been so lucky myself.
#12 of 39 Pure bliss by giny1 Jan 08, 2009 (1:08 pm)
Starting around $30,000 the 370Z is the king of the road for looks and personality. If the 1 Series and 370Z were exactly identical in performance and price, for me the obvious choice would be the 370Z because it looks so much better... in person the car is stunning. In fact I have one sitting in front of me right now!
#13 of 39 Re: Warranties mixed up [1speedbike] by giny1 Jan 08, 2009 (1:13 pm)
Replying to: 1speedbike (Dec 16, 2008 10:59 am) Yes Edmunds.com has the WRONG Warranty info on the 370Z. the Bumper to Bumper is 3/36 and Powertrain is 5/60. Even Edmunds makes mistakes... but lets see how long it takes an editor to recognize it and correct their error? I say never - because truth and perception are incompatible in the age we're in. Look at the last election! Replies to this message: claires (Jan 14, 2009 8:26 am)
#14 of 39 Re: 4-seater vs 2-seater? [roadburner] by 01wht35 Jan 09, 2009 (7:22 am)
Replying to: roadburner (Dec 16, 2008 6:27 am) Hello, I am one of the few drivers out there cross-shopping these two cars (if Nissan gives us a rag top). I currently have the pleasure of driving an '06 350Z Roadster and I do NOT like the look of the 370. I think Nissan hired some Acura designers (not a good thing...just look at the new TL). I do not like the new Z's design architecture at all..too Gen Y for me. The 350Z Roadster is a blast to drive and I enjoy the "cult" following of the car. I have had some serious quality issues and Nissan's customer service leaves a lot to be desired. Both cars look great on paper, but I think the 135i soft top will better fit my need for speed. Have fun everyone.
#15 of 39 Re: Warranties mixed up [giny1] by claires HOST Jan 14, 2009 (8:26 am)
Replying to: giny1 (Jan 08, 2009 1:13 pm) The editors have corrected the warranty information -- thanks for the heads-up
#16 of 39 by dat2 Jan 15, 2009 (1:32 pm)
Is it fair to compare a 370z right off the assembly line with a well broken in 1 series?? You could have gotten a 1 series with no miles to make the performance numbers more representative (I would think a well broken in 370z will shave a few tenths off it's accel numbers)