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You are in the Ford Fusion and Mercury Milan Hybrid
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Ford Fusion Hybrid, Mercury Milan Hybrid, Hybrid Cars, Sedan
#920 of 1144 Re: Blown-out of a Mercury dealership [acdii]
Aug 10, 2009 (9:51 am)
As I said, I originally wanted a Mercury Milan HB. Unfortunately, the dealerships that I encountered did not want to cooperate.
As for 2010 Prius reliability, you are quite correct that the car was (almost) totally redesigned. However, after searching for as many reviews as I could find that included test drives, I could not find any substantial criticism of its design and performance. To the contrary, they were generally quite favorable.
An exception to the overwhelmingly favorable acclaim might be CarandDriver.com which somewhat grudgingly admitted that the Prius was technologically superior to most other comparable HBs, but described driving it as "boringly normal" (paraphrase). This is probably true - by their standards - which view the ideal cars as Ferraris, Lamborghinis, Porsches, Corvettes, etc. Unfortunately, I (and most other car buyers) are not playing in that league!
Regarding your reports of handling problems with the 2007 Prius, I did not find similar concerns in the reviews that I found (which were mostly about the 2008, 2009 and 2010 models) However, such handling problems may also apply to other hybrids of that size. If the problems that you described are caused by the HB drivetrain, then other brands that are using licensed versions of the Toyota HB design (which include Fusion/Milan and Nissan) may also have that problem.
In any case, as you pointed-out, the 2010 Prius is a redesign and is therefore a "new 1st year" car. Therefore, comparisons to the problems that you reported on your 2007 may not apply at all to this new design. Time will tell (for all hybrids).
#921 of 1144 Re: Blown-out of a Mercury dealership [amcarseeker]
Aug 10, 2009 (10:05 am)
The problem isn't the hybrid drivetrain - it's the suspension/tires/aero package on the Prius.
#922 of 1144 Re: Blown-out of a Mercury dealership [akirby]
Aug 11, 2009 (2:52 pm)
"A few weeks?" I assure you that is not really the case. Sometimes it takes an authorized dealer "a few weeks" just to confirm you have a legitimate retail order!
According to various forums, Ford Fusions seem to be taking about 8--10 weeks to deliver _once the order is confirmed_, and my Milan hybrid may be delivered as early as 16 weeks. (Others who have ordered Milan hybrids seem to be getting theirs in 10--12 weeks after retail order confirmation.)
#923 of 1144 Re: Blown-out of a Mercury dealership [akirby]
Aug 11, 2009 (5:29 pm)
For the handling in cross winds it is, the traction control though was way too sensitive. The Camry Hybrid though, I rarely ever have it shut down on gravel, even though the tires slip. The Prius was so sensitive that a 1/4 slip of either tire would shut it down.
I don't dislike the car, when I took a trip to San Jose CA last year, I rented a Prius, frankly because I couldn't get a Camry Hybrid. It was a 2008 model, and it drove a little slower, and got a little less MPG than the one I had, but drove pretty much the same. I didn't hit any gravel or sand, so I don't know if the TC was any better in it.
#924 of 1144 Headlights on Mercury Milan Hybrid
Aug 15, 2009 (12:20 pm)
We have had our MMH since 4/29 and have about 4000 miles on it and long term mileage is 40.5.
Now to the question, does anyone know when your headlights are on, is there an indicator on the dash anywhere? When I turn my headlights on, unless it is dark, I cannot tell that they are actually on. I normally have them set on "Auto" and difficult to know when they come on when it is not actually dark. I have turned the Headlights on in complete darkness, and do not see an indicator of any kind on the dash. Any help will be appreciated.
#925 of 1144 Re: Headlights on Mercury Milan Hybrid [hayley2]
Aug 16, 2009 (2:38 pm)
About the only way I can tell is to click the bright lights on and the blue bright lights indicator will illuminate on the dash.
40.5 overall mpg!! What's your terrain and how often do you run full A/C, even for a short time.
I'm still keeping all my gas receipts and the mpg reported by the car is 1-2 mpg more than the total miles (about 6500) divided by gal. of gas bought. I understand that we should get better mileage after 10k. I wouldn't be concerned if the car's reported mpg was less than gasoline bought, but when it has consistently been the other way, I started to question the validity (honesty) of the equipment, and the company. Measurement error should be less than 1 mpg.
I'm still very pleased with my FFH, but ....
#926 of 1144 Re: Headlights on Mercury Milan Hybrid [WyattNichols]
Aug 17, 2009 (9:43 am)
Thanks for the "Heads Up" on the Headlight issue. That works for me.
Overall terrain here in Central IL is mostly flat & we have been driving with the A/C on most of the time with few exceptions, not full blast but where we are comfortable.
I updated my Excel Spread Sheet today including all the gas used thru 7/28 which is the last fill-up at a total of 3598 miles and used total of 95 1/2 Gallons.
My average calculated by actual gas used is as follows;
Avg. MPG Cost per Mile
So comparing with vehicle calculations and actual gas used, about 8% off.
Not perfect by any means, but I'm happy with my MMH. Even if gas goes up to $5.00 plus per gal, my cost per mile will be in range of 0.132 per mile. Not bad.
#927 of 1144 Re: Headlights on Mercury Milan Hybrid [hayley2]
Aug 17, 2009 (10:53 am)
I agree that you cannot tell if the headlights are on especially during the day or when it is raining. Thanks for the trick with the bright lights however they really need to put a nice LED on the light switch so you can tell when they are actually on. Other than that around 6k on my MHB no issues so far. Around 38 long term mileage and when I really watch the EV and traffic is light (so I can coast some) I can get 41 on several trips about 25 miles or so.
#928 of 1144 Re: Headlights on Mercury Milan Hybrid [bigt]
Aug 17, 2009 (11:44 am)
Don't they have a automatic headlight on? Last few cars I bought turned them on and out automatically. I would think with the price of this car this would be included. Then you don't need to worry.
#929 of 1144 Re: Headlights on Mercury Milan Hybrid [dmathews3]
Aug 17, 2009 (12:14 pm)
That's just it - when they're on automatic you can't tell if they've automatically turned on or not. Sometimes they don't come on as early as you would like. Although they do come on automatically if the wipers are turned on so that helps.