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2010 Prius vs Ford Fusion Hybrid by wpwoodjr
Jun 28, 2009 (9:35 am)
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I've done a comparison of the 2010 Prius to the Ford Fusion Hybrid here at this link.
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Re: 2010 Prius vs Ford Fusion Hybrid [wpwoodjr] by acdii
Jun 28, 2009 (4:57 pm)
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Replying to: wpwoodjr (Jun 28, 2009 9:35 am)

Nice review, I could not agree more. I owned a 2007 Prius for 10 months and 24,000 miles. Spot on with everything you mentioned, with the exception of the center console, I guess that was one of the major redesigns, the 2007 - 09 models had an open front floor area, which gave it a sense of more room than it actually had. Materials not only looked cheap, they are cheap, easily scratched, if you used any kind of protectant like armor all, it would dull up quickly and outgas all over the windshield, and because the windshield is so deep, it was a bugger to clean. I now have a 2009 Camry Hybrid, which I would love to trade on a 2010 FFH, but I don't have enough to put down to equal the current monthly payment. The Camry is a big improvement over the Prius, even though there is less cargo room, there is more passenger room, and front leg room, one of my biggest beefs on the Prius. The JBL system in the Camry is actually very good, very nice bass and treble, and even a decent mid range. Not as good as what I have in my Veracruz, but still much better than any other stock sound system I have had before. I think the only thing the Prius has over the Ford is the better fuel economy, but even still, if driven right, the Fusion can probably get what the Prius is rate at, at least my Camry is close to what the Fusion is rated at, I'm getting over 38 MPG mixed driving, and if I get on the highway I can get close to 50 MPG with some careful driving, over 40 in the city if the lights are in my favor. Currently I have too many stops and turns on my daily drive to get closer to 41 MPG, but when I don't have to drop the kids off, I easily see 41. The car is rated 34 MPG, so I say it does quite well.
 
With that said, I am waiting before plunging into the Fusion, first so I am not rolling over any negative equity(hopefully there is positive), and second waiting until there are a few out there with 20K+ on the clock and some history. With any luck there may even be some incentives on them once the tax credit is gone. I would rather have low interest financing than a small tax credit.
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FYI--Heat is a killer of mpg by WyattNichols
Jun 28, 2009 (6:53 pm)
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Prior to the recent heat wave in the south, I was getting about 39 mpg for the last 2000 miles, according to the car's meter; a little less (37.7) according to my calculations of gas bought verses miles driven. During this last tank of gas, my mpg dropped 5.5 mpg due to the daily temps at or above 100.
 
The electrical drain on the system when you run the A/C when it is 120F inside and 100F+ outside is significant; even when you roll down the windows for a few minutes ("but it blows my hair!") to get the inside temp down to 100F. Psychologically, when I'm experiencing this type of heat, I've found that I'm not as patient with coasting and accelerating real slowly.
 
For the last (first) 10 tanks of gas, at fill-up the estimated miles that could be driven on that tank (based on the mpg for the last 500 miles;I think) was 650 to 690 miles per tank. When I filled up this evening, the estimated miles was 600 miles for that tank.
 
When it cool down this evening to 88F, I ran errands for 25 miles of city driving, without A/C with windows down, and got about 50 mpg. So, I know the car is still working properly, it's just the heat.
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Back in my Milian HB by bigt
Jun 29, 2009 (5:38 am)
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Whew, am I glad to be back home. Spent a week in Orlando and rented a Chrysler Sebring convertible. It was way to hot to put the top down (but I did anyway). But what a piece of junk the Sebring is.
 
 My Milian HB beat the crap out of it in plain old acceleration. With the Sebring I put my foot all the way to the floor and it barely moved. The 190 hp in the Milian takes off much better. Perhaps it is the torque ratio or something. Also the Sebring just drunk gas and I guess I am just plain old spoiled now. I don't even think about going to the gas station now. I think that I go about 2 times a month at the most now.
 
Boy do I love my Milian Hybrid!
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Re: FYI--Heat is a killer of mpg [WyattNichols] by acdii
Jun 29, 2009 (8:35 am)
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Replying to: WyattNichols (Jun 28, 2009 6:53 pm)

OHBOYHOWDY, you got that right. Last week I dropped 3 MPG due to the heat. Too hot and too cold affect all the hybrids. The Prius and the Camry both suffer when it is below 30 and above 80. This morning the temps were in the 60's, and its back to 40 MPG.
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Ford Fusion Hybrid discounts? by jbryner
Jun 29, 2009 (8:45 am)
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I'm close to pulling the trigger on a Ford Fusion Hybrid or a Mercury Milan Hybrid and I'm obviously looking for the best deal possible. Thanks to a posting I read on this site, I found a dealer in Richmond, VA that is advertising the Fusion Hybrid at $1,000 below MSRP. Does anyone know of an advertised discount better than that?
 
I live in West Chester, PA and I'm definitely willing to travel to Richmond, VA or beyond to save $1,000 if my local dealer will not match the price.
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Re: FYI--Heat is a killer of mpg [WyattNichols] by dmathews3
Jun 29, 2009 (12:50 pm)
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Replying to: WyattNichols (Jun 28, 2009 6:53 pm)

When it is that hot out does the air cool down the car to say 72 like my wifes Caddy does? Also are you driving the Ford Hybrid?
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Re: Ford Fusion Hybrid discounts? [jbryner] by jeff_h
Jun 29, 2009 (1:06 pm)
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Replying to: jbryner (Jun 29, 2009 8:45 am)

That was me that posted the other note, but you can also go to my local dealer, he will also give $1,000 under MSRP and currently has 4 on the lot. Plus, I am an hour north of Richmond so you save some driving.
 
Go to my profile area and send me an email (on bottom of profile) if you want to coordinate more, I'll be glad to help out.
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Re: FYI--Heat is a killer of mpg [dmathews3] by cmuniz
Jun 30, 2009 (3:52 am)
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Replying to: dmathews3 (Jun 29, 2009 12:50 pm)

My FFH has kept us cool in Dallas when the outside temps were over 100. That was one of my concerns when hybrids first came out, but now that the a/c is electrical it works just fine under any condition. It will affect the mpg since the engine has to run more to charge the battery - not run the a/c.
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In case you were thinking about the Honda Insight... by hoyafan
Jun 30, 2009 (7:04 am)
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Thing again, according to Consumer Reports:
 
http://www.autoblog.com/2009/06/30/i-consumer-reports-i-lambasts-honda-insight-r- anks-it-21-out/

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