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Replying to: wvgasguy (Jan 07, 2009 6:26 am) Funny a buddy of mine and I were on the Toyota lot when the Camry HB showed up. It was bright red, I loved it and was about to trade in my 2006 Zephyr for it. I decided to show it to my girl the next day. When I got back my buddy already purchased it. So I sold my Zephyr to my girl and purchased a new MKZ bright red. He still got all of the attention because he had the Hybrid. Hmm, that is a interesting sales point. Do people make a purchase decision on how much attention the car gets? I bet we do!
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Replying to: bigt (Jan 07, 2009 6:40 am) We may not admit it but we do or else we'd all be driving around in gray Kia's. FYI, if you're afraid of getting "bored" with a hybrid and you're some what interested in technology, then opt for the energy screens (included with the Nav system on the Toyota). I gave up horsepower in my Infiniti FX45 and found working with maximizing FE in the camry to be just as enjoyable of a driving experience. Caution though, it will change you. I'm not a "green" person but I don't ever see myself buying a gas hog again. I recently went through the buying decision and just couldn't bring myself to buy something that didn't far exceed the competition in the same class. My TCH got better milage than my daughters Corolla. My wife loved it though because she only had to fill the tank every 550 miles. It's addictive. The fact that Hybrids are green is a good consequence for me but I bought it for the FE in a large comfortable car. |
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| I wonder why they are not offering this package in the Lincoln since it's basically the same platform as the Fusion and Milan | |
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Replying to: wvgasguy (Jan 07, 2009 7:23 am) |
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Replying to: wvgasguy (Jan 07, 2009 7:23 am) Why doesn't Lexus offer a ES hybrid? It's the same platform as the Camry. |
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Replying to: texases (Jan 07, 2009 7:36 am) That's because nobody buys a radio or suspension to save money, but most folks use cost savings (fuel) as a justification for buying a hybrid. Not saying they need to justify it, but that's what happens more often than not. Same reason people use the cost of upcoming repairs as a justification to buy a new vehicle. |
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Replying to: texases (Jan 07, 2009 7:36 am) When the hybrid costs 6 or 7 thousand dollars over the normal version of the car, yes, it might get a little scrutiny from most folks. I do like your comments about giving up acceleration for fuel economy. If one is willing to do this, and, say is willing to get a vehicle with a 10 sec 0-60 mph time, then fuel economy gets really good. Take the '10 Fusion 4-cylinder, for example, as its going to get 34 MPG on the highway without being a hybrid and costing thousands more.
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Replying to: coldcranker (Jan 07, 2009 8:15 am) Safety: The hybrid is carrying an extra 400 lb set of 'slugs' under your butt. That is not good for collision performance. Handling: High speed maneuvering can't be good with the extra weight of the hybrid. Performance: Since AWD eats gas, you don't typically see this on the more serious hybrids like Prius and Fusion hybrids. A friend of mine with a Prius says it does crappy in the snow because the battery weight is over the back wheels. Acceleration of hybrids tends to be worse, due to the extra battery weight. For my money, I would: Get a 4-cylinder, high-MPG, version of a car, and put the $6,000 bucks I save into an FDIC insured savings account. My choices are getting better as they add direct-injection, higher-compression (more efficient) engines and put CVTs or 6-speed automatics in more cars, increasing MPG of the basic 4-cylinder models of Malibu, Fusion, etc. With non-hybrids like that, I can still thumb my nose at the Saudis and Chavez, too, while driving something that doesn't have a ton of batteries attached to my butt. |
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Replying to: coldcranker (Jan 07, 2009 8:15 am) I guess I'm adding other factors into the purchase, like decreasing oil imports and having fun (I'm an engineer, so I may have a strange definition of fun) working with the hybrid technology. |
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Replying to: bpizzuti (Jan 06, 2009 8:04 am) The original post that set off this mini blaze stated that hybrids were not intended for highway driving. I disagree, that's all. They all do wonderfully on the highway. As regards pricing that's far far more subjective. There is no right/wrong or good/bad barometer. If a person normally expects to spend $25000 - $35000 on a vehicle then the hybrids are simply the most economical choice. There is no 'premium', it doesn't exist for these buyers. In fact there's a discount, i.e. the amount of fuel saved.
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