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Replying to: fusion_female (Jun 21, 2009 9:14 pm) |
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Replying to: fusion_female (Jun 22, 2009 5:07 am) FFH would be tough to justify in a normal leasing situation. |
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Replying to: fusion_female (Jun 22, 2009 5:07 am) If you didn't buy a FFH, but were looking at a 4 cylinder or V6 Fusion, then I would recommend the 4 cyl over the FFH and the FFH over the V6. Don't forget the tax credit, I believe $1,700, you get for buying a FFH. The FFH does well with city driving. Driving like "a little old lady" (how my wife describes my driving), I easily get 42+ mpg after the ICE is hot and the temperature is below 85F. I haven't had that mpg because half of my driving is at interstate speeds and recently temperatures are 95-100F. A non-hybrid car would get a similar, or worse mpg decrease in hot temperatures. |
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Has anyone kept track of their gas receipts and computed their mpg based on the gasoline purchased vs. the readout from the car? I have. At my last fillup, 4673.0 miles, I had bought and thus burned or evaporated 123.91 gals (37.7 mpg), but the readout on my long term dash mpg was 38.9. The difference being about 3.5 gals. I know there are measurement errors all around, but is this within the limits expected for the car's calculation or fuel pumps?
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Replying to: WyattNichols (Jun 22, 2009 5:53 pm)
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Replying to: akirby (Jun 22, 2009 7:03 pm) No. I'm using the long term mpg since I picked up the car. I have checked the mpg for each of the 10 tanks of gas I've bought. As it should be, the average mpg for these 10 tanks of gas was basically the same as the total gals bought divided into the total miles. Yeah, I didn't think 3% off was all that bad, unless everybody else was getting a difference below the car's reported mpg. True measurement error should be distributed on both sides of the car's reported mpg.
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Replying to: WyattNichols (Jun 23, 2009 1:57 am)
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Replying to: acdii (Jun 23, 2009 6:15 am) |
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Replying to: fusion_female (Jun 22, 2009 5:07 am) In the Fusion Hybrid, in city driving, I bet I could see 45+ MPG in it easily, just from the fact I have driven hybrids for two years now and know how to manipulate the pedal just right, but that takes practice and a constant eye on the gauges. Personally, what it boils down to, is not cost, economics, being green etc. it comes down to personal preference, if you like it, buy it, who cares what it costs, what the so called "break even" point is, or how "good" it is for the environment. What matters most is if you like to drive it, is it comfortable to drive, is it fun, does it suit your needs, and do you feel safe driving it, these points are what matter most, everything else doesn't really matter. When I traded my Prius for a Hyundai Veracruz, I was at first happy to be driving the Veracruz, and still enjoy driving it, but after a while I missed driving the hybrid, I did not miss the Prius at all, it was unconformable to drive for me, and I did not feel it was a safe enough car for me and my family, but I did miss the technology. A few months later I got a great deal on a Camry Hybrid, and I like driving it, I like the car, and it has been 100% reliable for the past 27,000 miles, other than a few quality concerns, nothing actually wrong, just cheap materials that I feel are not up to the standards I expect from a Toyota Camry, there is not a single thing wrong with the car. I have no concerns over repair issues, and seeing that others have gone 300K without replacing the pack, I feel the car will last me a long time. Now had Ford had the Fusion Hybrid out last year, there is a very good possibility I would have one of those instead, since the Ford quality is much higher than the Toyota is now. If I were to sell it, based of current used car prices, especially if gas prices go up , I am fairly confident I could come out ahead, with cash in hand after paying off the car loan. |
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If you're talking how soon before it becomes economically advantageous to buy a hybrid....since there is still a $1700 dollar tax credit on them and the initial cost is what $3000 dollars more aren't we talking only a $1300 dollar difference? I figured at an average price of $3 dollars a gallon, which I know we aren't quite to yet, but driving like I do I should expect to even out in about 2 years. Anyone that got the $3400 they where starting out to the good, no? One question, I know they say the regenerative braking has lower maintenance and last longer when you do need a brake job could a regular mechanic do it or would someone with special knowledge be needed?
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