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4400 miles by WyattNichols
Jun 18, 2009 (5:40 pm)
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I turned over 4400 miles today. MPG for the long term (last 4300 miles) is 39.0 and 39.2 mpg for the last 2000 miles.The long term mpg has slowly increased from the start. The last 2k mpg fluctuates between 38.9 and 39.2, according who's driving the FFH. The 95F+ heat has decreased mpg a little.
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Re: 4400 miles [WyattNichols] by acdii
Jun 19, 2009 (4:58 am)
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Replying to: WyattNichols (Jun 18, 2009 5:40 pm)

Wait until it hits over 10K, and you should see it increase. That was the magic mark on the Prius and Camry Hybrids. I saw about a 2MPG increase after 10K miles, and now that the Camry is nearing 28K, I am getting consistently above 38MPG. The current tank is hovering around 40MPG. If I can get this in a Camry, imagine what I might get in a Fusion!
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Why hybrid? by fusion_female
Jun 21, 2009 (9:14 pm)
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My lease is up on my '06 Fusion and will be getting a new one. Just don't know if I should get a hybrid or not. Not sure I will truly save money. Your thoughts?
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Re: Why hybrid? [fusion_female] by acdii
Jun 22, 2009 (3:17 am)
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Replying to: fusion_female (Jun 21, 2009 9:14 pm)

What kind of mileage do you get now, what type of driving and what do you want in the car. The Hybrid should be getting at least 40 MPG compared to the other models. In addition the packages offered for the Hybrid are pretty nice, and when compared option to option, the price is so close to the V6 Fusion, that it just makes good sense to get the hybrid. OTOH, if you have the base model and all you can afford is the base model, then by all means get the base model.
 
For a comparison, I have an 09 Camry Hybrid. The power output of the hybrid with fully charged batteries is on par with the V6. For the most part the batteries are close to fully charged due to my daily trip of mostly 55 MPH. My MPG for the past few months has been 38+ MPG now that the weather has warmed up. For any other model Camry, the best I would see would be between 28-30 MPG for the type of driving.
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Re: Why hybrid? [fusion_female] by hoyafan
Jun 22, 2009 (4:22 am)
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Replying to: fusion_female (Jun 21, 2009 9:14 pm)

Check out the reviews on Edmunds to see what customers who have a FFH think:
 
http://www.edmunds.com/ford/fusionhybrid/2010/consumerreview.html
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Re: Why hybrid? [acdii] by fusion_female
Jun 22, 2009 (5:07 am)
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Replying to: acdii (Jun 22, 2009 3:17 am)

I do mostly city driving.  Currently, I'm getting 27.6 mpg.  I read the reviews about what others are getting in the hybrid, but my concern is. . . when will I see that I've saved money by purchasing the hybrid?  Besides gas mileage, where else will I save?  I understand that oil change needs to be done at the same rate (or maybe I misunderstood it!), insurance should be a little cheaper.  I recently read an article that listed how long it took hybrid owners to break even with their hybrid.  They compared many hybrids, but one includes a 2009 Camry vs. 2009 Prius.  It will take 4.2 years to break even and that was the least number of years in all of the results.  Another question I have is when will the battery go bad?  Thanks for responding to my concern-this is the first time I've used a forum!
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Why hybrid by hoyafan
Jun 22, 2009 (5:34 am)
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I would submit to you that the decision to buy a hybrid is usually based on other factors aside from economic payback. Most hybrid owners I've talked to wanted to: "do the right thing and/or help achieve energy independence". I think the most common sentiment is that they want to do their part...In other words, it wasn't only about the money. If you calculate only based on break-even, I don't think it will work out favorably, particularly if you compare to a 4 cylinder (cheaper) Fusion.
 
With regard to the battery - I believe the warranty is 8 years or 100,000 miles (except in California where it is even higher). I've also read that there are many Escape Hybrids in NYC and SF which have 300,000 miles on them and there has not been a single battery failure.
 
Good luck with your decision.
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Re: Why hybrid? [fusion_female] by gregg_vw
Jun 22, 2009 (6:40 am)
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Replying to: fusion_female (Jun 22, 2009 5:07 am)

Buy the cheaper ICE 4 cylinder. Buying a hybrid is really not about financial payout. It is getting new technology, using less fossil fuel, and getting some of the latest features (not to mention the best Fusion resale value). How does one figure in satisfaction with having bought a hybrid? I won't go on, but anyone who wishes to "break even" at some point by buying a hybrid is probably not a hybrid person.
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Re: Why hybrid? [fusion_female] by rogerinvermont
Jun 22, 2009 (7:55 am)
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Replying to: fusion_female (Jun 21, 2009 9:14 pm)

If money is the only reason -- probably not. Others have stated well the reasons.
 
Particularly if you want to lease, there is little financial reason to hybridize. Certainly not with a FFH. Maybe a Honda Insight -- much cheaper.
 
Monetarily speaking, the $64 question is what the price of diesel fuel will be vis-a-vis gasoline. These new diesel engine cars get wonderful mileage, and with the new now sulphur fuel dont stink.
 
The other questions you need to answer to get a better fiscal answer:
 
highway vs city vs surburban driving. Hybrids shine city driving.
 
length and depth of cold weather -- hybrids must run the engine to warm you and the batteries -- less saving in cold weather.
 
I gotta tell you --- the FFH is a wonderful automobile with, for me, the right size.
 
Let us know your decision.
 
Rog in Vermont
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Re: Why hybrid [hoyafan] by rogerinvermont
Jun 22, 2009 (8:36 am)
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Replying to: hoyafan (Jun 22, 2009 5:34 am)

More specifically, the warranty is 10 years/150K miles if you are in a california emissions state.
 
And it is a full warranty; it is NOT prorated based on the life of the battery.
 
As a purchaser of a new, expensive, high-tech automobile, I have the fear that something post-warranty will die and Ford will demand my children's birthright to fix it. The high-voltage battery is the least of the worries, because of the high-mileage warranty.
 
The five california emission states are California, New York, Maine, Massachusetts, and Vermont.
 
Rog in Vermont

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