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Re: Got my car last Friday [davidcaruso] by hevintulsa
Jun 14, 2009 (9:42 pm)
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Replying to: davidcaruso (May 01, 2009 4:43 pm)

I got my FFH May 20. I ordered it March 30 in order to get in on the full tax credit.
 
I live in Tulsa, OK and got the FFH through Joe Cooper Ford. Are there any other FFH owners in Tulsa on this list? I haven't seen another one on the streets of Tulsa yet.
 
As of June 15 I am finishing my 3rd tank of gas at about 1,700 miles. I got about 37 mpg on the first 2 tanks with mostly highway driving, and at 40 mpg on 3rd tank with a mix of about 60% city, 40% highway. Looks like it will live up to EPA mpg ratings.
 
I like the car. I had one of the first (MY2001) classic Prius and had a lifetime mpg of 45 before an uninsured yahoo in a dually pick up ran over me and totaled it about 2 years ago. The FFH powertrain concept is essentially the same as the Toyota approach, but the FFH has a slightly more aggressive electrical use algorithm and a more informative and useful instrument display, both of which I like. I also drive a pure EV (Solectria Force) so I am a big fan of the electric dive component. The more the better as far as I am concerned. I gave up waiting on the Volt or a production Prius plug-in, and decided that Ford has the best HEV product on the market at present.
 
Are there any other FFH related discussion groups that any owners have found?
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Other groups by hoyafan
Jun 15, 2009 (2:50 am)
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To answer the question about other groups, I've only found two sites.
 
First, the Ford Fusion Forum, which has a dedicated FFH section:
http://www.fordfusionforum.com/index.php?showforum=57
 
Secondly, a pretty good blog: http://ffh.squarespace.com/
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Re: May-2009 Sales [yerth10] by norman_1
Jun 15, 2009 (5:40 pm)
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Replying to: yerth10 (Jun 02, 2009 10:58 am)

Ford's sales of Escape/Mariner hybrid in May 09 was: 1,702/125.
Fusion hybrid sales in May: 1,877.
 
Camry hybrid sales in May: 2,941.
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4400 miles by WyattNichols
Jun 18, 2009 (5:40 pm)
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I turned over 4400 miles today. MPG for the long term (last 4300 miles) is 39.0 and 39.2 mpg for the last 2000 miles.The long term mpg has slowly increased from the start. The last 2k mpg fluctuates between 38.9 and 39.2, according who's driving the FFH. The 95F+ heat has decreased mpg a little.
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Re: 4400 miles [WyattNichols] by acdii
Jun 19, 2009 (4:58 am)
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Replying to: WyattNichols (Jun 18, 2009 5:40 pm)

Wait until it hits over 10K, and you should see it increase. That was the magic mark on the Prius and Camry Hybrids. I saw about a 2MPG increase after 10K miles, and now that the Camry is nearing 28K, I am getting consistently above 38MPG. The current tank is hovering around 40MPG. If I can get this in a Camry, imagine what I might get in a Fusion!
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Why hybrid? by fusion_female
Jun 21, 2009 (9:14 pm)
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My lease is up on my '06 Fusion and will be getting a new one. Just don't know if I should get a hybrid or not. Not sure I will truly save money. Your thoughts?
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Re: Why hybrid? [fusion_female] by acdii
Jun 22, 2009 (3:17 am)
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Replying to: fusion_female (Jun 21, 2009 9:14 pm)

What kind of mileage do you get now, what type of driving and what do you want in the car. The Hybrid should be getting at least 40 MPG compared to the other models. In addition the packages offered for the Hybrid are pretty nice, and when compared option to option, the price is so close to the V6 Fusion, that it just makes good sense to get the hybrid. OTOH, if you have the base model and all you can afford is the base model, then by all means get the base model.
 
For a comparison, I have an 09 Camry Hybrid. The power output of the hybrid with fully charged batteries is on par with the V6. For the most part the batteries are close to fully charged due to my daily trip of mostly 55 MPH. My MPG for the past few months has been 38+ MPG now that the weather has warmed up. For any other model Camry, the best I would see would be between 28-30 MPG for the type of driving.
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Re: Why hybrid? [fusion_female] by hoyafan
Jun 22, 2009 (4:22 am)
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Replying to: fusion_female (Jun 21, 2009 9:14 pm)

Check out the reviews on Edmunds to see what customers who have a FFH think:
 
http://www.edmunds.com/ford/fusionhybrid/2010/consumerreview.html
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Re: Why hybrid? [acdii] by fusion_female
Jun 22, 2009 (5:07 am)
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Replying to: acdii (Jun 22, 2009 3:17 am)

I do mostly city driving.  Currently, I'm getting 27.6 mpg.  I read the reviews about what others are getting in the hybrid, but my concern is. . . when will I see that I've saved money by purchasing the hybrid?  Besides gas mileage, where else will I save?  I understand that oil change needs to be done at the same rate (or maybe I misunderstood it!), insurance should be a little cheaper.  I recently read an article that listed how long it took hybrid owners to break even with their hybrid.  They compared many hybrids, but one includes a 2009 Camry vs. 2009 Prius.  It will take 4.2 years to break even and that was the least number of years in all of the results.  Another question I have is when will the battery go bad?  Thanks for responding to my concern-this is the first time I've used a forum!
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Why hybrid by hoyafan
Jun 22, 2009 (5:34 am)
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I would submit to you that the decision to buy a hybrid is usually based on other factors aside from economic payback. Most hybrid owners I've talked to wanted to: "do the right thing and/or help achieve energy independence". I think the most common sentiment is that they want to do their part...In other words, it wasn't only about the money. If you calculate only based on break-even, I don't think it will work out favorably, particularly if you compare to a 4 cylinder (cheaper) Fusion.
 
With regard to the battery - I believe the warranty is 8 years or 100,000 miles (except in California where it is even higher). I've also read that there are many Escape Hybrids in NYC and SF which have 300,000 miles on them and there has not been a single battery failure.
 
Good luck with your decision.

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