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#799 of 1144 Re: May-2009 Sales [jeff_h]
Jun 09, 2009 (2:10 pm)
I am considering a 2010 Prius. I think many improvements have been made in the 3rd generation.
I hate to buy before I see/drive a Fusion hybrid. Saturday I went to the local Ford dealer. My wife and I walked all around the showroom, walked around the lot, looked at numerous cars, and not one salesman approached us.
Next i called another Ford dealer 25 miles away. No 2010 Hybrids, and none expected for "several months."
I then called another dealer, 50 miles away. He said they have none and do not know when the factory will begin 2010 assembly.
I once rented a Fusion, and was impressed with the vehicle. But the dealers are going to need to show a bit more interest. Plus there is still a tax credit for the Fusion. Get with it Ford!
#800 of 1144 Re: May-2009 Sales [felt]
Jun 09, 2009 (3:47 pm)
Don't get me wrong, I'm not knocking the Prius. My 2005 model went 127,000 miles with only a couple problems, both of which were covered under my extended warranty. I was making the observation that to my wife and me, the ride in the Fusion was far comfier and we both rode front and back seats during the test drives. I have a carpooler that rides in the back seat everyday, so while for some that rarely ever have a backseat passenger, I have one regularly so it's important to me.
As for being ignored at the Ford dealership, what city and state was that in? I like to play the "Mississippi" game where I count "1-Mississippi, 2-Mississippi, etc" in my head to see how long they take to get to me. The first visit to the dealer made it to 12-Mississippi, I was almost over to the Fusions. We took a test drive in a regular Fusion (no hybrids on the lot, 2 were due-in) and that's all we wanted for that night, our only aim was to take a drive. The next time was just me going to back to place the order, and I got to 2-Mississippi and there was a guy there "hey there, can I help ya?" and I said no thanks I'm looking for (salesman's name). I should have started counting again because I wouldn't have made it past 6-Mississippi and there was another just as I had gotten halfway to the showroom... I made it past him, and like an NFL zone defense as soon as one broke off, there was another to pick up my moves. I finally made it past #3 to get into the door of the showroom and find my salesman, where we wrote up the papers to order the car. Sorry to hear your experience was like walking through a ghost town.
As for calling the dealer 25 miles away, they might have had none in stock at the time, but didn't they offer to special order one for you? I understand that you probably would not want to take them up on it without at least a test drive, but it's surprising that they didn't offer to order one for you as I think that's easy money for them with just watching the car come off the truck and doing PDI and then out the door it goes.
The other dealer (50 miles away) that said that they did not know when the factory would begin their 2010 assembly would have to be really out of touch. You should be able to (just like dealer should be able to) run a "build your own" online and then do an inventory search in their area. In fact, the dealer should have the capability to use their internal system and put in the car criteria and run a search within 500 miles. My Dad is retired and spends his time ferrying cars from one dealership to another (for a Toyota dealer), they do searches within their region all the time and my Ford salesman did a search for me to find my exact match and we decided we needed to order one. To hear that the dealer didn't know about any of this or not even know if the model was being built yet (I saw a window sticker with a build date of April, so there were probably some before that), wow that is surprising.
Well, whatever you decide on, be it Prius or Fusion or otherwise, good luck with it!
#801 of 1144 Re: May-2009 Sales [felt]
Jun 09, 2009 (3:58 pm)
Several of us have commented on Ford's Fusion Hybrid advertisements, but no cars to buy.
The 2010s are out, each one of us who has a MMH or FFH has a 2010 car. My dealer has 2010 regular Fusions.
I've never driven a regular Fusion, but I suspect it would drive the same as the FFH.
If you can find a car to test drive, maybe a regular Fusion, you might want to special order a FFH so you get only the options you want. Many, but not all of the dealers are pre-ordering the FFHs with all the options because the demand is still high enough that FFH buyers will pay for options they don't need or want just to get the cars. Which means more profit for them.
Yesterday I read a review of the specs on the 2010 Prius and the FFH. There was very little difference between the two cars on interior dimensions. Now, I've never been in a 2010 Prius, but I drove a 2009 Prius for a week, and there is a big difference in the "feel" of the interior space, with the FFH "feeling" like an Accord. I know "feelings" aren't facts, but the Prius only felt a little bigger than my Saturn Ion. I suspect the Prius does have more trunk room than the FFH due to it being a hatchback.
#802 of 1144 Re: May-2009 Sales [WyattNichols]
Jun 09, 2009 (4:19 pm)
I am still waiting on my 2010 FFH, but did test drive both the regular model (when they did not have a hybrid on the lot) and also a hybrid. They are both on the same chassis and suspension and drove very similarly (transmissions are different but that's not really noticeable), I thought the FFH may have drove a bit better but I was probably biased since I was finally getting to drive the hybrid version.
The Prius is versatile and you can flip down the seats that cram all sorts of stuff in it, so if that's one's interest it's probably the better move. For me it was the ride as well as the $1,700 tax credit which is not longer available with the Prius and softens the blow of the price differential.
#803 of 1144 Re: May-2009 Sales [jeff_h]
Jun 09, 2009 (5:26 pm)
Thank you for the above comments.
We live in Utah, and there are other dealers not much further away. I plan to make a decision soon, and for that reason I would really like to drive a Fusion first. I like the tax credit, but thus far, the indication is the Ford dealers will add more than that to the MSRP. The Toyota dealer did not, plus they offered $2000 more for my trade-in than I expected.
Again, thanks .... I will not jump into either without a great deal more research. Actually, that is the phase I most enjoy.
I feel some urgency to proceed soon. I am absolutely convinced that gas will continue to get more expensive. Hybrids will become hard to find again, and the dealers will take advantage of the shortage. Plus, I feel congress will raise taxes .... that is the only way they will ever get the public into small electric vehicles. Yeah, I know, pretty pessimistic .... but that is what I foresee.
#804 of 1144 Check Edmunds consumer reviews
Jun 10, 2009 (12:24 am)
I would recommend anyone considering a FFH check out the Edmunds consumer reviews at: http://www.edmunds.com/ford/fusionhybrid/2010/consumerreview.html
Rarely (if ever) have I seen such positive reviews for a vehicle. Out of 24 reviews to date, there is only one negative review. People are extremely happy with their FFH.
I would also encourage any FFH owners who have not added a review to do so...
#805 of 1144 Re: Check Edmunds consumer reviews [hoyafan]
Jun 10, 2009 (4:44 am)
I second the reviews, when I was looking to purchase a CUV, I read the reviews for the models I was interested in, and based on the consumer reviews, made my decision. It was for a 2008 Hyundai Veracruz, which also was highly recommended, and It turned out to be a really great CUV.
#806 of 1144 Re: May-2009 Sales [jeff_h]
Jun 10, 2009 (4:46 am)
Ford decided to give build preference to confirmed retail orders (orders placed by consumers and verified by Ford) over stock orders. These retail orders also do not count against the dealer's allocation. This means you can order a FFH and be assured it will be built as soon as possible regardless of the dealer that ordered it.
Go drive a regular Fusion and if you like it and you want the hybrid then order the FFH. Because this doesn't count against their allocation (that runs out this month I believe so don't procrastinate) they should be willing to order one for you at no more than MSRP, sometimes a lot less. This is different from buying one off the lot.
#807 of 1144 Re: May-2009 Sales [felt]
Jun 10, 2009 (5:04 am)
We bought a white 2010 FFH from dealer stock in Dallas, Tx about 3 weeks ago. When I was looking there were at least 10 Fusioin/Milan Hybrids in the metroplex area. If you go to the Ford website and put in any of the DFW zip codes (75204, 76210) you can see for yourself. They are selling well, but not flying off the lots. Those of you really interested might want to make the trip. We only have about 800 miles on ours, but it is a great vehicles so far.
#808 of 1144 Ford Fusion Hybrid-Gas
Jun 10, 2009 (10:47 am)
What grade of gasoline needed in 2010 Fusion Hybrid.