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#790 of 1144 Re: May-2009 Sales [yerth10] by larsb

Jun 02, 2009 (12:43 pm)

Replying to: yerth10 (Jun 02, 2009 11:58 am)
yerth10 says ,"Probably Fusion/Milan Hybrid combination has overtaken Camry Hybrid sales."
 
Possibly that is true, but the Camry hybrid probably sold around 3,000, and remember: it's a 3-yr-old model, while the Fusion/Milan are brand spanking new.
 
And I'm sure there are good number of people who might have been shopping both the Camry hybrid and the Fusion/Milan hybrids, but who decided to "hold off" and take a look at the 2010 Prius which is upcoming. The anticipation for the new Prius is hurting all other hybrid sales right now.
 
Brand new cars with "good buzz" usually have a sales spike.
 
Not to say they are not excellent cars, but before declaring them "excellent," why don't we give it a couple of years and let them get some good road miles under them, eh?
 
More competition from Ford helps Toyota work harder, so it's all good.

#791 of 1144 Re: May-2009 Sales [yerth10] by bigt

Jun 02, 2009 (12:44 pm)

Replying to: yerth10 (Jun 02, 2009 11:58 am)
I wonder if they will increase production of Hybrids? Interesting comment that I have to agree with:
 
“Consideration for our new products is increasing,” said Ken Czubay, Ford vice president, Sales
and Marketing. “Even as the competitive environment intensifies, Ford’s relentless pursuit of
quality, fuel efficiency, smart technology and appealing designs is winning new customers.”
 
I agree, folks are starting to take note of this. If Ford is going to strike this is the time.
 
I must admit that I am confused why the over 50% drop in the Focus. Even the Taurus is 50% off. I actually like how the new Taurus looks.
 
http://media.ford.com/images/10031/May09sales.pdf
 
It is funny how the marketing guys can swing the figures. They are at a 36% vehicle drop from last year. However I use to work in Army recruiting and I know how to make the lines on the chart go up.
 
I was reading about GM and how it started going down one it started sharing platforms and the cars uniqueness disappeared. Perhaps that can explain why the Mercury Grand Marquis is still selling. Brand loyalty you think due to uniqueness?
 
I know I posted a lot in this mail.
 
Three months, 3k mileage on my Milan HB, 36 mpg overall with spurts up to 45 mpg. No issues, and not one Milan HB has showed up at one of the largest Mercury dealers in Maryland. Where are they?

#792 of 1144 Re: May-2009 Sales [bigt] by lilengineerboy

Jun 02, 2009 (5:54 pm)

Replying to: bigt (Jun 02, 2009 12:44 pm)
I must admit that I am confused why the over 50% drop in the Focus. Even the Taurus is 50% off. I actually like how the new Taurus looks.
 
50% drop in Focus because gas is $2.50 not 4.50. Americans have short memories. Good thing we have CAFE to mandate what car you want, right? Losers.
 
The 50% off Taurus is still the old Taurus, the new one isn't on the street yet as far as I know. It looked pretty sharp that the Chicago auto show, kind of Acura TL-ish in the front, while the Fusion strikes me as TL-ish in the back. I guess there are only so many ways you can draw lines on the front and back of a car.
 
They are at a 36% vehicle drop from last year. However I use to work in Army recruiting and I know how to make the lines on the chart go up.
 
Yeah they went from talking about vehicles sold to market share...I guess a bigger piece of a smaller pie balances things out a little?

#793 of 1144 Re: May-2009 Sales [lilengineerboy] by akirby

Jun 03, 2009 (5:34 am)

Replying to: lilengineerboy (Jun 02, 2009 5:54 pm)
A bigger piece of the pie is always better regardless of the size of the pie. At some point overall sales will go back up and when they do Ford will see a significant jump in sales volume if they maintain their increased market share.
 
The fact that Ford saw a month over month improvement and had a "less bad" month than Honda or Toyota is significant. The fact that they did it while reducing incentives is even better. And they have yet to sell the MKT, Transit Connect, new Taurus and Ecoboost versions of the Flex and MKS, all due later this year.
 
Throw in the Fiesta which will be a new market segment for Ford plus a redesigned Explorer, Euro Focus, etc. and Ford should be sitting pretty at the end of 2010.

#794 of 1144 Re: May-2009 Sales [larsb] by acdii

Jun 03, 2009 (7:45 am)

Replying to: larsb (Jun 02, 2009 12:43 pm)
Not so sure about holding off on the 2010 Prius. I had an 07 Prius, and compared to the Fusion, it looked and felt cheap, Toyota had better start putting some better quality into their cars if they want to keep up with Ford. The plastics they use in the Prius is mainly recycled, and it looks it, very susceptible to scratching, especially the dash. Unless Toyota has improved on material quality, the 2010 may not be much better than the 07 was, it sure isn't any larger inside of any note.
 
The only real advantage the Prius has over the Ford, MPG, that's about it, it sure isn't quality anymore.

#797 of 1144 Re: May-2009 Sales [acdii] by jeff_h

Jun 06, 2009 (8:23 pm)

Replying to: acdii (Jun 03, 2009 7:45 am)
acdii: The only real advantage the Prius has over the Ford, MPG, that's about it, it sure isn't quality anymore.
 
I am about to part ways with my 2005 Prius (with 127,000 miles, so I've gotten my use) and have ordered a Fusion hybrid -- like you said, the MPG is better in the Prius but after driving the Fusion there is no comparison when it comes to ride quality.

#799 of 1144 Re: May-2009 Sales [jeff_h] by felt

Jun 09, 2009 (3:10 pm)

Replying to: jeff_h (Jun 06, 2009 8:23 pm)
I am considering a 2010 Prius. I think many improvements have been made in the 3rd generation.
 
I hate to buy before I see/drive a Fusion hybrid. Saturday I went to the local Ford dealer. My wife and I walked all around the showroom, walked around the lot, looked at numerous cars, and not one salesman approached us.
 
Next i called another Ford dealer 25 miles away. No 2010 Hybrids, and none expected for "several months."
 
I then called another dealer, 50 miles away. He said they have none and do not know when the factory will begin 2010 assembly.
 
I once rented a Fusion, and was impressed with the vehicle. But the dealers are going to need to show a bit more interest. Plus there is still a tax credit for the Fusion. Get with it Ford!

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