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Fusion vs. Milan hybrid by texases
Jan 06, 2009 (9:30 am)
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What difference, if any, is there between the two? It's too bad the MKZ won't have the hybrid.
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Re: Fusion vs. Milan hybrid [texases] by bigt
Jan 06, 2009 (9:43 am)
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Replying to: texases (Jan 06, 2009 9:30 am)

I am trying to figure out the price difference between the Fusion Hybrid, the Milian Hybrid, and the MKZ. Someone told me that the difference between the Fusion HB and Milian HB was a couple of hundred bucks. I find that hard to believe. I have read the interesting discussions about how many years it takes for pay back. I like gadgets and I like not polluting and not paying for sky resorts in the Middle East.
 
Just recently it came to me here in DC over the past few weeks with everyone on vacation and less cars on the road. For the first time that I can remember the sky was full of stars. It was beautiful and then it dawned on me how much our vehicles are polluting the air we breath. I no longer car about powerful engines etc. Give me a non-carbon based (as close as possible) product.
 
Did anyone see the video on the car powered by water?
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Re: Fusion Hybrid '10 availability [larsb] by akirby
Jan 06, 2009 (9:51 am)
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Replying to: larsb (Jan 06, 2009 8:50 am)

If you really want to save money buy a cheap econobox. But that's not what most people want. If you want a Fusion or Camry with the best fuel mileage or it just makes you happy to drive a hybrid then go for it. I just don't like to hear people use cost savings as a justification. It's similar to people trading in SUVs and losing thousands in depreciation just to save a few hundred dollars in fuel. Or spending $25K on a new car to save spending $2,500 to fix an old one. You have to look at the big picture.
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Re: Fusion vs. Milan hybrid [bigt] by akirby
Jan 06, 2009 (9:54 am)
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Replying to: bigt (Jan 06, 2009 9:43 am)

Someone told me that the difference between the Fusion HB and Milian HB was a couple of hundred bucks. I find that hard to believe.
 
Why is it hard to believe? The Fusion and Milan are almost identical except for minor styling differences. The price of a similarly equipped (key words) Fusion and Milan have always been within a couple of hundred dollars. No reason to expect different with the 2010 models - hybrid or otherwise.
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Re: Fusion vs. Milan hybrid [texases] by akirby
Jan 06, 2009 (10:01 am)
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Replying to: texases (Jan 06, 2009 9:30 am)

There are only cosmetic differences between the Fusion and Milan. The Milan only exists to support the Lincoln/Mercury dealers that don't sell Fords. The MKZ gets a lot of upgrades and options not on the Fusion/Milan.
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Re: Fusion Hybrid '10 availability [akirby] by gregg_vw
Jan 06, 2009 (10:02 am)
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Replying to: akirby (Jan 06, 2009 8:12 am)

Drive a hybrid because you want to and stop trying to rationalize them as being cheaper.
 
I don't think all of us ARE rationalizing them as cheaper (even though above examples show the case can be made). For me it is also about doing my small part. I will pay more to know that I am less dependent on a dwindling resource. If more people think that way, my thinking actually will make a difference in overall fleet fuel use. It is not always just about me and my pocketbook. It's like switching off a light that doesn't really need to be on...it is easier to leave it on that keep switching it on and off, but by making a small effort and combining it with others' small efforts, it makes a real difference for all of us.
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Re: Milian Rear Camera [bigt] by akirby
Jan 06, 2009 (10:47 am)
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Replying to: bigt (Jan 06, 2009 9:26 am)

I wonder why the MKZ does not have a camera?
 
It does. What gave you the idea that it didn't?
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Re: Fusion Hybrid '10 availability [gregg_vw] by akirby
Jan 06, 2009 (10:56 am)
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Replying to: gregg_vw (Jan 06, 2009 10:02 am)

I'm not trying to discourage hybrid purchases and there are many valid reasons to buy a hybrid as you pointed out - and I agree with them. But if your main reason is to save money there are better alternatives starting with keeping a vehicle that's already paid for rather than buying a new one. Most buyers tend to focus on the cost of fuel and potential savings (which is only a few hundred dollars per year) and ignore all of the other costs like depreciation, insurance, etc. (which is thousands per year) to rationalize their purchase.
 
I say if you want one, get one - you don't need a reason or justification.
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Re: Fusion Hybrid '10 availability [akirby] by gregg_vw
Jan 06, 2009 (11:05 am)
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Replying to: akirby (Jan 06, 2009 10:56 am)

Point taken.
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Re: Fusion Hybrid '10 availability [larsb] by explorerx4
Jan 06, 2009 (3:59 pm)
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Replying to: larsb (Jan 06, 2009 8:50 am)

lars,
i live in new england, it gets cold here. in the saturday car section of the local paper(same owner as la times), there have been several letters published regarding the underperforming gas mileage of HCH's.
the HAH was a failure.
the 2 front runners are now the TCH and the FFH as sedans.
Honda better bring some game with the new Insight.

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