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#65 of 1054 Milian Standard by bigt Jan 06, 2009 (9:22 am)
Some of the standard info for the Milian:   MECHANICAL: • Alternator – 150 Amp • Battery – Low Maintenance 60-Amp • Brakes – 4-wheel Disc Anti-lock Braking System (ABS) • Drivetrain – Front Wheel Drive (FWD) �� Engine – 2.5L I4 Engine • Fuel Tank – 17.5 Gallon • Steering – Variable Assist Power Steering, Rack and Pinion �� Transmission – 6-Speed Manual Transmission EXTERIOR: • Door Handles – Body Color • Exhaust – Dual Chrome Tips • Front License Plate Bracket (Included In States Requiring Front License Plates) • Glass – Solar Tinted • Grille – Satin Aluminum • Headlamps – Bi-Functional Halogen • Mirrors — Body Colored Caps with Black Housing — Power Adjustable, Heated Fixed — Review Mirrors with Security Approach Lamps • Molding — Bright Beltline Molding • Tail-lamps – LED • Tires • Wheels/Tires — 16" Aluminum Wheel — P205/60R16 All-Season — Spare – T145/80D16 Mini-Spare and Steel Wheel INTERIOR/COMFORT: • Assist Handles – 2 Front and 2 Rear, Located In Headliner • Chime – Safety Belt Reminder, Headlamp On, Door Open, Key In Ignition • Climate Control – Cabin Air Filter • Climate Control – Single Zone Manual • Consoles — Front Row Center with 2 Tier Armrest Storage — Overhead with Maplight and Sunglass Holder • Cup Holders – 6 Total • Door Locks – Power • Illumination – Dome Lamp with Map Lights – 1st and 2nd Row • Instrument Cluster with Message Center • Mirror – Day/Night Interior Rearview • Pedals – Fixed • Power Points – 2, 12V, Located In Front of Vehicle • Seats — 1st Row – 6-Way Power Driver Seat with Manual Lumbar — 1st Row – 4-Way Manual Passenger Seat with Manual Lumbar — 2nd Row – 60/40, Spring-Assisted, Split Bench with Center Armrest and 2 Cupholders (Non Hybrid Seat) — Premium Cloth Seating Surfaces • Shifter Knob – Soft Feel �� Steering Wheel — Leather Wrapped — Manual Tilt/Telescoping — Speed Control and Secondary Audio Controls
#66 of 1054 Milian Rear Camera by bigt Jan 06, 2009 (9:26 am)
Couple of questons. I wonder why the MKZ does not have a camera? What is the blind spot info system and cross traffic alert? Will SIRUS/XM really go out of business this year? They are on the corporate death watch list. What do folks think of the capless fuel cap? I would hope that at least the outside access panel locks.   FUNCTIONAL �� New: — Available Sony Audio System with 12 Speakers — Available BLIS™ (Blind Spot Information System) with Cross Traffic Alert — Easy Fuel™ (Capless Refueling) — Available Rear-View Camera — Available Voice-activated Navigation System – In-dash screen and Single DVD/CD/MP3 Player, DVD-audio, DVD-video capability. Internal hard disk drive for map, POI storage and 10 GB Music Jukebox and Integrated SIRIUS® Travel Link. Includes 6-Month Pre-Paid Subscription (48 Continuous States). Service Not Available In AK/HI • Changed: — Available Mercury SYNC® Voice-activated Communications and Entertainment System includes 911 assist and vehicle health report PACKAGES �� New: — Driver's Vision Package o BLIS™ (Blind Spot Information System) with Cross Traffic Alert o Rear-View Camera (in Rearview Mirror unless Navigation is ordered Replies to this message: akirby (Jan 06, 2009 10:47 am)
#67 of 1054 Fusion vs. Milan hybrid by texases Jan 06, 2009 (9:30 am)
What difference, if any, is there between the two? It's too bad the MKZ won't have the hybrid. Replies to this message: bigt (Jan 06, 2009 9:43 am) akirby (Jan 06, 2009 9:54 am) akirby (Jan 06, 2009 10:01 am)
#68 of 1054 Re: Fusion vs. Milan hybrid [texases] by bigt Jan 06, 2009 (9:43 am)
Replying to: texases (Jan 06, 2009 9:30 am) I am trying to figure out the price difference between the Fusion Hybrid, the Milian Hybrid, and the MKZ. Someone told me that the difference between the Fusion HB and Milian HB was a couple of hundred bucks. I find that hard to believe. I have read the interesting discussions about how many years it takes for pay back. I like gadgets and I like not polluting and not paying for sky resorts in the Middle East.   Just recently it came to me here in DC over the past few weeks with everyone on vacation and less cars on the road. For the first time that I can remember the sky was full of stars. It was beautiful and then it dawned on me how much our vehicles are polluting the air we breath. I no longer car about powerful engines etc. Give me a non-carbon based (as close as possible) product.   Did anyone see the video on the car powered by water? Replies to this message: akirby (Jan 06, 2009 9:54 am)
#69 of 1054 Re: Fusion Hybrid '10 availability [larsb] by akirby Jan 06, 2009 (9:51 am)
Replying to: larsb (Jan 06, 2009 8:50 am) If you really want to save money buy a cheap econobox. But that's not what most people want. If you want a Fusion or Camry with the best fuel mileage or it just makes you happy to drive a hybrid then go for it. I just don't like to hear people use cost savings as a justification. It's similar to people trading in SUVs and losing thousands in depreciation just to save a few hundred dollars in fuel. Or spending $25K on a new car to save spending $2,500 to fix an old one. You have to look at the big picture. Replies to this message: kdhspyder (Jan 07, 2009 1:49 pm)
#70 of 1054 Re: Fusion vs. Milan hybrid [bigt] by akirby Jan 06, 2009 (9:54 am)
Replying to: bigt (Jan 06, 2009 9:43 am) Someone told me that the difference between the Fusion HB and Milian HB was a couple of hundred bucks. I find that hard to believe.   Why is it hard to believe? The Fusion and Milan are almost identical except for minor styling differences. The price of a similarly equipped (key words) Fusion and Milan have always been within a couple of hundred dollars. No reason to expect different with the 2010 models - hybrid or otherwise.
#71 of 1054 Re: Fusion vs. Milan hybrid [texases] by akirby Jan 06, 2009 (10:01 am)
Replying to: texases (Jan 06, 2009 9:30 am) There are only cosmetic differences between the Fusion and Milan. The Milan only exists to support the Lincoln/Mercury dealers that don't sell Fords. The MKZ gets a lot of upgrades and options not on the Fusion/Milan.
#72 of 1054 Re: Fusion Hybrid '10 availability [akirby] by gregg_vw Jan 06, 2009 (10:02 am)
Replying to: akirby (Jan 06, 2009 8:12 am) Drive a hybrid because you want to and stop trying to rationalize them as being cheaper.   I don't think all of us ARE rationalizing them as cheaper (even though above examples show the case can be made). For me it is also about doing my small part. I will pay more to know that I am less dependent on a dwindling resource. If more people think that way, my thinking actually will make a difference in overall fleet fuel use. It is not always just about me and my pocketbook. It's like switching off a light that doesn't really need to be on...it is easier to leave it on that keep switching it on and off, but by making a small effort and combining it with others' small efforts, it makes a real difference for all of us. Replies to this message: akirby (Jan 06, 2009 10:56 am) gregg_vw (Jan 06, 2009 11:05 am) coldcranker (Jan 06, 2009 4:40 pm)
#73 of 1054 Re: Milian Rear Camera [bigt] by akirby Jan 06, 2009 (10:47 am)
Replying to: bigt (Jan 06, 2009 9:26 am) I wonder why the MKZ does not have a camera?   It does. What gave you the idea that it didn't?
#74 of 1054 Re: Fusion Hybrid '10 availability [gregg_vw] by akirby Jan 06, 2009 (10:56 am)
Replying to: gregg_vw (Jan 06, 2009 10:02 am) I'm not trying to discourage hybrid purchases and there are many valid reasons to buy a hybrid as you pointed out - and I agree with them. But if your main reason is to save money there are better alternatives starting with keeping a vehicle that's already paid for rather than buying a new one. Most buyers tend to focus on the cost of fuel and potential savings (which is only a few hundred dollars per year) and ignore all of the other costs like depreciation, insurance, etc. (which is thousands per year) to rationalize their purchase.   I say if you want one, get one - you don't need a reason or justification. Replies to this message: gregg_vw (Jan 06, 2009 11:05 am) coldcranker (Jan 06, 2009 4:40 pm)

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