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You are in the Ford Fusion and Mercury Milan Hybrid
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Ford Fusion Hybrid, Mercury Milan Hybrid, Hybrid Cars, Sedan
#348 of 1144 Re: Latest Ford offers [wvgasguy]
Feb 17, 2009 (5:41 am)
A bit of an apples-oranges comparison. You need to look at the cost of a 2010 V6 AWD Fusion v. the Hybrid. The Hybrid will still be more, but not as much as comparing an 09. Ford needs to move 09s out, as the 10s are close to arriving at dealers. Looking at what the 09 doesn't have: as good mpg as the 10, it has less sound deadening, it does not have stability control, it has less power, and cheaper interior finish. The 09 is a decent car, but it needs to be that much cheaper to sell out.
#349 of 1144 Re: Latest Ford offers [gregg_vw]
Feb 17, 2009 (6:01 am)
Slight correction - the 09 models do offer stability control. One of the few things they changed for the 09.
#350 of 1144 Re: Latest Ford offers [akirby]
Feb 17, 2009 (7:37 am)
You are correct. Was thinking of the 08s and older. Does not change my general point though.
#351 of 1144 Re: Latest Ford offers [gregg_vw]
Feb 17, 2009 (8:45 am)
I am also so on the fence on this one. I have the 07 MKZ and am trying to decide on the Milan HB or the 10 MKZ. I think when I load them up they will be close in price. I love the luxury but I also bet there will be something or some reason why gas will spike back up over the next few years. When it does you will not be able to get one of these new HB's. Heck all of the hype going on make make it impossible to get one of these once they start arriving. This is all good news for Ford!
#352 of 1144 Re: Latest Ford offers [bigt]
Feb 17, 2009 (10:57 am)
I also bet there will be something or some reason why gas will spike back up over the next few years.
And it won't take much. It could be something as big as the world coming out of ressession and needing gasoline or it could be middle east unrest. I'm hoping for the first but betting on the second as a sure thing.
#353 of 1144 Re: Former Prius owner [coldcranker]
Feb 18, 2009 (1:37 pm)
I used to have a Prius, and I don't miss it. Let me put it straight, you cannot compare a Prius to a Fusion, you can compare a Camry to a Fusion, but not a Prius. The Prius is in a class by itself, at least until Honda has the Insight on the road. For the Prius, handling, interior room, power, conveniences are all below the midsize cars like the Camry and Fusion. I now own a Camry Hybrid, I like the hybrid tech, but did not like the Prius. If Ford can get these out to the dealers in a decent time frame and can get the price to be competitive to the Camry H, then you will see a lot of these being sold. The only advantage a Prius has as far as room is rear leg room, and cargo space, not enough front leg room and not enough width for a third back seat passenger, where the Camry and Fusion do have the advantage. So far I have not had any problem with trunk space in the Camry, granted it is small compared to the hatchback in the Prius, but it still holds plenty of stuff. If I need more room than that I will drive my Veracruz, or F350 Dually.
The Prius is ok for the most part, but for a family with 3 kids, it just doesn't cut it, the Camry or Fusion does.
#354 of 1144 Re: Former Prius owner [acdii]
Feb 19, 2009 (6:20 am)
I used to have a Prius, and I don't miss it
The thoughts of the Prius ownership and 50mpg is interesting but I found the Camry Hybrid to be overall a very nice package and comfortable. The new Prius interest will make me check it out and the FFE is of interest too. I can get discounts on the FFE so that is a plus. I'll be in the market anywhere between now and November when my lease runs out.
#355 of 1144 Re: Former Prius owner [acdii]
Feb 20, 2009 (3:20 pm)
I have a Prius but if I had a young family again it would be the Camry or Fusion hybrids.
Ford will be severely limited in getting these to the general population due to battery supply constraints. 25000 units is the annual production goal. This is about 1 vehcle per dealer every 60 days. Or IOW the larger stores will get several and the smaller stores will get none. In addition unfortunately unless things pick up all vehicles above $25000 are going to be sitting for a good long time.
#356 of 1144 Re: Former Prius owner [kdhspyder]
Feb 20, 2009 (5:05 pm)
Hey Bob, I'm hoping that I have my mind made up by the time dealers are hungry. I don't want to pay a premium on a Toyota with no tax credit, but am still on the fence about the FFH. Supposedly I can get the FFH at the XPlan price but if the dealer doesn't participate or even have the ability to get one like I would want then it doesn't matter.
Will the 2010 TCH have the next generation hybrid system?
#357 of 1144 Re: Former Prius owner [wvgasguy]
Feb 20, 2009 (10:39 pm)
At the 5 yr anniversary in 2012 I'd estimate that the TCH gets updated. Lots will be happening at that time frame.